Girl killed by pit bull terrier

[Chasser]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6224009.stm

I wonder if this will catch on. I'm amazed by last part of the article. What does the pitbull owner not understand about the dog being illegal?

 

[WIBSBOT]

Drug Dealer's dog according to reports. He should be prosecuted with the full force of the law.

 

[Sirrel Squirrel]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6224009.stm

I wonder if this will catch on. I'm amazed by last part of the article. What does the pitbull owner not understand about the dog being illegal?

What are they going to do with the dogs though? Bit harsh putting them all down if that is the case

 

[MrSix]

It all comes down to the owner of the dog.

I've been bought up with dogs all of my life, some are perfectly ammicable, won't get nasty even when provoked. Others are perfectily ammicable most of the time, but will snap if they are pushed. Others simply can't be trained to be nice, they are bad natured dogs and unfortunately can't be kept as pets and are more suited to a working role.

As an owner, you have to be the judge of what sort of dog you have - if your dog is one of the ones who can turn nasty, then you make sure it's never out of your sight if there are other people or animals around.

It is very, very rare for an unprovoked dog to "maul" somebody to death. I've had playfights with pitbulls and they are unbelievably strong, their jaws like vices and their strength is immense. The media tend to exaggerate the actions of the perpetrator in stories (in this case the dog) and so the dog had to "Maul" the child to death, when it could have been a simple snap which lead to blood loss. But I digress.

Not all Pitbulls are dangerous, not all staffies are dangerous - that's like saying Black people are all aggressive and all people with shaved heads steal cars.
You can't stereotype a breed, you have to use your bonse and look at the nature of the individual dogs.

I agree a license of some sort should be introduced where you may be asked by a police officer to produce the license if they see you walking your dog in the street. This would possibly cut down on the number of idiots who own these dogs for fighting and give them a bad name.

R.I.P little girl and R.I.P poor dog.

 

[Chasser]

What are they going to do with the dogs though? Bit harsh putting them all down if that is the case

Harsh yes, but nonetheless, owning a pitbull is breaking the law, regardless of how flawed that law may be. Many RSPCA officers still consider the legislation is akin to taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut. They still advocate 'punish the deed, not the breed'.

Not all Pitbulls are dangerous, not all staffies are dangerous - that's like saying Black people are all aggressive and all people with shaved heads steal cars. You can't stereotype a breed, you have to use your bonse and look at the nature of the individual dogs.

Precisely.

 

[singist]

It all comes down to the owner of the dog.
SNIP
Not all Pitbulls are dangerous, not all staffies are dangerous - that's like saying Black people are all aggressive and all people with shaved heads steal cars.
You can't stereotype a breed, you have to use your bonse and look at the nature of the individual dogs.

I agree a license of some sort should be introduced where you may be asked by a police officer to produce the license if they see you walking your dog in the street. This would possibly cut down on the number of idiots who own these dogs for fighting and give them a bad name.

R.I.P little girl and R.I.P poor dog.

All pit bull terriers ARE dangerous; It is perfectly reasonable to stereotype a dog when it has been bred specifically for one thing.

You have to use your bonce and not get one in the first place.

If you licensed the dogs, the responsible owners would get a license and the rest would not so it would be a waste of time.

If you want a PET dog, get a breed that is not ILLEGAL to breed/sell and has not been bred for aggression.

I stand by my earlier statement "only a moron would want one".

 

[Johnny Girth]

People seem to forget that almost all dogs can turn. They can seem to be the most loving/affectionate/soft dog in the world but they are still animals. Our collie is so soft you can just push her over, pick her up, even force your hand in her mouth and she won't bite but I'd never leave her alone with a small child.

Dogs don't reason like humans - if there's a strange smell, sound or other sensory change it can be enough to cause them to snap for no apparent reason.

 

[MrSix]

blah blah blah

I stand by my earlier statement "only a moron would want one".

I stand by my current statement: "only a moron would say something like that".

 

[robbiemc]

...
In fact, I would bet that nearly nobody in this thread would know what an american pitbull terrier actually looks like. People see badly bred staffie crosses and immediately shout "pitbull!". True pitbulls are extremely rare in this country, and are generally secretly kept by people who are into pit fighting.

You actually get people who still believe they can lock their jaws, randomly turn on their owners for no reason at any point in their lives, and have the hardest bite of any dog breed.

That is a pure, game bred fighting pitbull, the likes of which you don't see in this country. They are just not about. They actually make fantastic pets, and do very well in temperament tests, better than most other dog breeds. The ignorance of some people is worrying, but expected.

Back in 1988 my girlfriends dad was an RSPCA officer and they owned an ex-fighting pit bull that he rescued. Even though he had a very hard life - with many scars to show for it - he had a wonderful manner and was a lot of fun. Every time I used to sit on the sofa he would come bounding up and jump up on my lap..phew, that boy was heavy!

 

[Glaucus]

was it actually a pit bull? or is the media just trying to sell, the bbc is the first article I've seen that said it was a pit bull, the others say it was pit bull type dog. which isn't the same.

 

[kitten_caboodle]

i was bitten very severely when I was a kid by a really small spaniel. I was at a friends house and knew the dog well - never had a problem with it in several years when all of a sudden I was walking past it to go out of the door and it just snapped and went for me, ripped open my arm, leg, chest and hand and foot. I spent the night in hospital with my injuries - but that didn't make any papers. Any dog has the potential to snap, especially if it's mis-treated or sometimes just feeling poorly.

 

[AlexG12]

RIP

 

[inferno]

Well you only need to take one look at the family, doubt they took good care of their daughter or the dog.

 

[kitten_caboodle]

Well you only need to take one look at the family, doubt they took good care of their daughter or the dog.

harsh words considering the parents don't even live there with the family or the dog. They lived in Warrington, which is about half an hour away. The little girl was also a member of a local private nursery which is not cheap for the full term and known to be the place of choice to send your kids should you want the best for them. I don't think the child was neglected or abused.

 

[Depth]

All pit bull terriers ARE dangerous; It is perfectly reasonable to stereotype a dog when it has been bred specifically for one thing.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

Pitbulls were bred to be agressive to other dogs, a trait called "gameness". The whole point of a game bred pitbull (or staff) was a small dog that could be picked up from the pit during a fight without fear of the handler being bitten. Traditionally, all pitbulls terriers or staffordshire bull terriers that showed human agression on any level were culled, as it was viewed to be an unacceptable and unwanted trait. They don't magically bite harder than any other dog, infact there are several large breeds that bite significantly harder, are just as powerful and far heavier. It's all down to the owner, not the breed.

 

[abruzz1]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6224009.stm

I wonder if this will catch on. I'm amazed by last part of the article. What does the pitbull owner not understand about the dog being illegal?

It's a typical chav response. Common sense never prevails.

 

[kitten_caboodle]

Oh yeah, whoever said his pitbull was 9-10 stone of pure muscle, he must have been a freakish sized / cross bred one, seeing as they generally weigh between 30lbs - 60 lbs, not 140lbs.

the one that killed the girl was in between 6.5 - 7 stone which equates to somewhere around 90-98lb if my calculations are correct....

 

[Chasser]

Seems it was a particularly big dog, and possibly not a pure pitbull. This from a US Pitbull Terrier site which confirms Depth's original comment: The APBT ranges in size from 22 pounds to 110 pounds (rare), with the most common being between 35 - 55 pounds (16-25 kg.), in fact the original APBT's were between 20 - 40 pounds (9-18 kg.) and were bred small for their main purpose, fighting, These dogs are varying from small to extra large. A very common misconception is that APBT's are muscle bound (viscous) hulks that weigh in around 85 pounds (39 kg.) and this is generally not the majority, Most of the APBT's that Are that large have been crossed with another breeds.

 

[abruzz1]

Yet another dog attack, luckily not fatal.

Boy mauled by three rottweilers

A nine-year-old boy is in hospital after an attack by three rottweilers, who chased him into his home.

The pets were meant to be secured in a neighbour's kitchen, but escaped from the house and attacked the boy in Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire.

His father prised open one dog's jaws and dragged all three out of the house in Slindon Close, Chesterton.

The victim may need plastic surgery for more than a dozen bite wounds. One of the dogs has been put down.

The boy, who is in hospital, has bite wounds to his face, back, arms and legs.

Since the attack, at about 1700 GMT on Monday, one of the dogs, a male, has been destroyed.

Crown Prosecution Service

A spokesman for Staffordshire Police said the boy was treated at the scene by paramedics, before being taken to the University Hospital of North Staffordshire.

Police are waiting to speak to the boy and a friend who was with him.

"When we have, we will be in a better position to assess what, if anything, happens next - including whether or not the two other dogs should be destroyed.

"We will be submitting a report to the Crown Prosecution Service for advice on whether prosecution is appropriate," he said.

This the latest in a string of dog attacks in recent months.

On New Year's Day, five-year-old Ellie Lawrenson was mauled to death by her uncle's pit bull terrier in St Helens, Merseyside.

Last year five-month-old Cadey-Lee Deacon died after being mauled by two rottweiler guard dogs in the living quarters of a pub in Leicester.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/6270655.stm

 

[wannabedamned]

Problem with these dogs, Is they look so cute as puppies. And they are probably as lovely when grown up as ever. I know this because my auntie has 2. They are always playing together and biting each other(Playfully)

So they get bought, and brought up with the families. Now the thing is, As it's been said, These dogs, never get on with dogs they don't know. EVER! they always want to fight. Even if they have been brought up nicely. That on it's own should be a flashing siren showing they arent safe!

But then these animals are attacking and killing kids aswell!! But they are protected, They are vicous animals! They can be brought up with kitten gloves and they still have a ferocious underlying animal instinct.

For anyone to leave toddlers with these animals, they really need to go to some commonsense classes. They are not now nore will they ever be family pets!

It's like having a family tiger, and letting your kids play with it.