Gnome 3.0

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tntcoder

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Hey,

Just a heads up that Gnome 3.0 is finally due out this Wednesday :) It's looking pretty awesome so far, but it will be a big change and take some getting used to.



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Hopefully it will be good and not go the way that KDE 4.0 did on release :)
 
Does it work fully with compiz yet, or do have to use metacity?

Have there been any changes to metacity such that you don't need compiz?
 
Looks interesting. Might have to install Arch or something and give this a try.

What's the usual timescale between something like this being released and being available in your average unstable distro?
 
Depends on the philosophy of the distro, Ubuntu may pick it up for 11.10 if this other thing they're using for 11.04 doesn't turn out well.
 
BigglesPiP said:
Does it work fully with compiz yet, or do have to use metacity?

Have there been any changes to metacity such that you don't need compiz?
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Sadly I think that still stands, it was a design decision simply because the new Gnome Shell is massively different code and structure wise. Maybe though the included compositing effects in the new shell will match or at least come close to what Compiz does?

russ0r said:
Looks interesting. Might have to install Arch or something and give this a try.

What's the usual timescale between something like this being released and being available in your average unstable distro?
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With Arch at least it will probably hit the testing repos on Wednesday and main stable ones in ~ 1-2 weeks. No idea about other distros but maybe in the next major release :) I would guess though most distros will have some community documentations on installing it manually within the next couple of weeks.
 
OpenSUSE 11.4 has a Gnome 3 Preview and I'm sure other distros do, so I expect they will just update to the release once out and in the repos.
 
BigglesPiP said:
Does it work fully with compiz yet, or do have to use metacity?

Have there been any changes to metacity such that you don't need compiz?
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Gnome3 doesn't use compiz anymore, it now uses Mutter.


Mutter is a window and compositing manager that displays and manages your desktop via OpenGL. Mutter combines a sophisticated display engine using the Clutter toolkit with solid window-management logic inherited from the Metacity window manager. While Mutter can be used stand-alone, it is primarily intended to be used as the display core of a larger system such as gnome-shell or Moblin. For this reason, Mutter is very extensible via plugins, which are used both to add fancy visual effects and to rework the window management behaviors to meet the needs of the environment
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Used a copy of 11.04 Alpha last night; doesnt seem too different but the change in the taskbar doesnt appeal to me. A "single button" launcher reminds me too much of the start menu.
 
Just installed this from testing on Arch. I really like it :) It still needs a bit of optimisation (laggy and slow in places) but it beats KDE and the old Gnome by miles.
 
russ0r said:
Just installed this from testing on Arch. I really like it :) It still needs a bit of optimisation (laggy and slow in places) but it beats KDE and the old Gnome by miles.
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Excellent good to here :) I was going to install it from the testing repo as well, but I was recently retarded and erased my local pacman database = reinstall required :p :(
 
Any live Distro's with this out yet ? (i'm not asking for much :p)
I want to give it a spin before trying to install it on my main OS.
 
Looks like another leap in the right direction. :)

Just wish they would tear themselves away from the simple "netbook" style feel to the desktop in those vids :) Are we really all going tablet/netbook crazy in the near future?
 
LizardKing said:
Any live Distro's with this out yet ? (i'm not asking for much :p)
I want to give it a spin before trying to install it on my main OS.
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Try this: http://gnome3.org/tryit.html
(the catchphrase 'made of easy' actually made me cringe lol)

Had it going for a couple of hours now. Apart from the lag I'm struggling to find anything to dislike about it. There are no desktop icons or minimise buttons, which foiled me at first; but once you work out the Activities bar you realise you don't really need them.
A system tray of some sort would be nice though.

It's very easy on the eyes and feels a bit Mac OS X-ish.

Would recommend it to anyone considering it, possibly(!) even for daily use.
It does seem quite hungry for CPU cycles though, so limit your usage to mid to high-end desktops and laptops.
 
Been playing with this and Fedora 15
Slowly getting my head around the changes, has to be one of the biggest leaps forward with Linux since Compiz/Beryl hit the scene.

Missing my desktop icons though, not quite sure how the favourites bar will cope with scalability.
 
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