Good Cheap Server - HP Proliant Microserver 4 BAY - OWNERS THREAD

Lol, just "upgraded" from a Mediasmart EX495 running WHS v1 to a Microserver N54l running Server 2012 Essentials last night, took ages as I was having to play hard drive musical chairs while I disassembled the pool on the EX and assembled the pool and system mirror on the N54l, it's interesting to note the differences between the two machines.

What have you noticed so far?

I was tempted with going the 2012 route but the price is putting me off at the moment so going to attempt a 2011 build.

Do you mean between the two machines or between the two O/S's?

Between the two machines, the obvious thing straight away is that the N54l is twice the size of the EX495 due to the optical drive and overall design, truth be told the N54l seems like a lower quality piece of kit (understandable considering the price). Its only advantages over the EX495 are the ease of memory upgrade (and cheapness of DDR3 vs DDR2), on-board RAID, and VGA port (retrofit-able to the EX anyway as it has a header on the board).

By comparison the EX has higher build quality (vibration is less noticeable), a slightly more powerful CPU, tool-less drive caddys and smaller form factor. The disadvantage though is unless you want to retrofit a VGA port and shell out for a big stick of DDR2 (one ram slot) WHS V1/'11 are your only options.


Between the two O/S's (WHS v1 & S2012 Essentials), well for a start one is based on Server 2003 and the other on Server 2012, so the is an obvious difference there (by comparison WHS 2011 is based on Server 2012 R2) as the are a lot of advancements behind the scene. Differences between the O/S's depend what you want to do with them, connecting via RDP works the same*, running a torrent application for acquiring linux .iso's is the same, shared folders and DNLA media streaming works just as well. The big difference though is that while WHS 2011 dropped drive extender (for many the best feature of WHS and the reason 2011 uptake was so poor) the is a new and improved version in 2012/W8 called storage spaces which works great.

Overall I think if you can get S12k Essentials free via Technet or something I would say defiantly do it, but if not your better off saving the pennies and going with WHS v1.



*Something to note is that using the W8/2012 remote desktop app to connect to another W8/2012 machine is flawed as hell as moving the mouse to a corner brings up the local machines effect not the remote machines (it all works fine using the normal RDP program though).
 
HP are really doing some major improvements with the Gen8. Somehow I doubt they will be as cheap as its predecessors which is really the selling point of these boxes. Hope they prove me wrong.

US prices have been confirmed and start from $450, this version is a significant jump so it was expected from the leaked specs that it would have price bump too. Compared to the old version it now has an optical drive, twin gigabit ports, USB3.0, iLO port and best of all not only does it come with a dual core Ivy Bridge CPU but form the pics of the heatsink height if my be socketed not soldered.
 
My N54L is being delivered this week, can anyone tell me if the following will fit?
Your basket
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
Asus HD 6450 SILENT EDITION 1024MB GDDR3 Low Profile PCI-Express Graphics Card £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 VX Sound Card - OEM (30SB107100000) £11.99

No, the N54L doesn't have any PCI slots. Google N54L soundcard for options, its got PCIe only.
 
US prices have been confirmed and start from $450

Thats what I kinda expected, with the Intel kit it was never going to be anywhere remotely near the good old £65 cashback N54's. :(

It'll doubtless be a cracking bit of kit and is shaping up to be really good but is well outside of the realms of being a plaything any more.

Saying that though, I'll probably get one to play with anyway. :D
 
No, the N54L doesn't have any PCI slots. Google N54L soundcard for options, its got PCIe only.

I also didn't notice until I got home that the graphics card doesn't include a low profile bracket, although it does clearly say in the description that it's not included :rolleyes:
 
My N54L is being delivered this week, can anyone tell me if the following will fit?
Your basket
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
Asus HD 6450 SILENT EDITION 1024MB GDDR3 Low Profile PCI-Express Graphics Card £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 VX Sound Card - OEM (30SB107100000) £11.99
(£9.99) £11.99
(£9.99)

I'll be using Windows Server 2012 as it's free for students.

Also I currently have 2 x 2TB drives in my Qnap TS-210 that I'll want to relocate. They're currently mirrored and ext 4, what's the best way to go about it?

Cheers

The 6450 fits fine in the N40L. That can also take care of your sound via the HDMI port so you may not need the sound card :)
 
Thats what I kinda expected, with the Intel kit it was never going to be anywhere remotely near the good old £65 cashback N54's. :(

It'll doubtless be a cracking bit of kit and is shaping up to be really good but is well outside of the realms of being a plaything any more.

Saying that though, I'll probably get one to play with anyway. :D

Something else I just noticed :D

These are the two CPU's confirmed for the G8:

Intel® Celeron® Processor G1610T (2M Cache, 2.30 GHz) - 35w TDP
Intel® Pentium® Processor G2020T (3M Cache, 2.50 GHz) - 35w TDP

Both IB LGA1155 CPU's, just like:

Intel® Core™ i5-3470T Processor (3M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) - 35w TDP
Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1220L v2 (3M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz) - 17w TDP
Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1265L v2 (8M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz) - 45w TDP

If the rumour of the G8 having a socket is true this could open the door to some heavy customization of the G8, like the days of sticking a Q8200s in the EX495. For reference the 3470T & 1220L v2 are 2c4t and the 1265L is 4c8t.
 
Thanks for the replies! I'll try it without the bracket see how that goes :)

I got the sound card because my av amp doesn't do HDMI, and I'm told that HDMI to tv and then tv optical to amp only gives me stereo not 5.1

Server 2012 currently downloading 539MB of updates!
 
Before I buy one of these can somebody give me a quick idiots guide to sharing it with other people on the internet like I do with my Seagate GoFlex?
Say I put Win7 on it I've been told I need FreeDNS to share it?
How does it work and what would a friend see at their end?

Thanks
 
Something else I just noticed :D

These are the two CPU's confirmed for the G8:

Intel® Celeron® Processor G1610T (2M Cache, 2.30 GHz) - 35w TDP
Intel® Pentium® Processor G2020T (3M Cache, 2.50 GHz) - 35w TDP

Both IB LGA1155 CPU's, just like:

Intel® Core™ i5-3470T Processor (3M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) - 35w TDP
Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1220L v2 (3M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz) - 17w TDP
Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1265L v2 (8M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz) - 45w TDP

If the rumour of the G8 having a socket is true this could open the door to some heavy customization of the G8, like the days of sticking a Q8200s in the EX495. For reference the 3470T & 1220L v2 are 2c4t and the 1265L is 4c8t.


Well, if they keep on with the cashback deals and they turn out to be customisable, it may well be worth the extra cash to get one.
 
If the rumour of the G8 having a socket is true this could open the door to some heavy customization of the G8, like the days of sticking a Q8200s in the EX495. For reference the 3470T & 1220L v2 are 2c4t and the 1265L is 4c8t.

The maintenance manual indicates it does have a socket.

I guess anything upto 35W would be fine as that's the TDP on the standard fit options. Probably limits it to dual core?
 
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Manual is here. It's on the HP site somewhere but I can't find the link at the moment, so it's a link to the one I downloaded.
 
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