Good news for Scotland (and the rest of us)..

Good speech. Just seems she's just tired of all the animosity of modern politics and wants a quieter life. She's been leader for a long time, and it must be exhausting being in the spotlight with such a polarised public and press.
 
MissChief said:
Personally I find the constant baiting of the First Minister akin to trolling. I’ve had temp bans for calling F1 team principals names yet I consistently see people here taking the absolute **** with memes and trolls and getting away with it.
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TBF it’s like that with all politicians. People only get offended when it’s the one they support.
 
Sankari said:
It's funny how the 'vote Brexit to get our sovereignty back' crowd are bitterly opposed to Scotland getting her sovereignty back.
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"That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain And that the Ensigns Armorial of the said United Kingdom be such as Her Majesty shall appoint and the Crosses of St Andrew and St George be conjoined in such manner as Her Majesty shall think fit and used in all Flags Banners Standards and Ensigns both at Sea and Land"

The main point to get out of this agreement was the forever bit,
 
Being Prime Minister or first minister has to be the most thankless job in Britain. Not sure I could put with 8 years of everyone telling I'm an ******** every day when I go to work.
 
thenewoc said:
Because what Scotland had on the cards for independence was to immediately capitulate to the EU.
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Well, they'll need subsidising from someone else if they leave the Union. It's like the kids that announce they're leaving home but still want their car finance and insurance paying by mum and dad, and all the other perks continuing they have become expectant of.
 
thenewoc said:
Because what Scotland had on the cards for independence was to immediately capitulate to the EU.
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Firstly that's not true (you misspelled 'rejoin the EU'). Secondly, as an independent nation that would be entirely Scotland's choice to make and none of your business.

Don't even try to pretend that the anti-independence argument is 'We love Scotland so much, we want to deny her independence to save her from the dastardly clutches of the EU.'

The anti-independence argument boils down to 'Having left the EU while insisting that we haven't completely ****** the UK, we want to deny independence for Scotland because **** Scotland.'
 
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Freddie1980 said:
Being Prime Minister or first minister has to be the most thankless job in Britain. Not sure I could put with 8 years of everyone telling I'm an ******** every day when I go to work.
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Whilst I broadly agree with you Freddie, the job does come with substantial perks during and most certainly after. Even if the role is extraordinarily short, ehh Liz? :)
 
Was a really good conference and you can entirely understand her reasoning. I still think it's bad for Scotland but if she has had enough then it would be worse to keep going.
 
Richard - London said:
"That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain And that the Ensigns Armorial of the said United Kingdom be such as Her Majesty shall appoint and the Crosses of St Andrew and St George be conjoined in such manner as Her Majesty shall think fit and used in all Flags Banners Standards and Ensigns both at Sea and Land"

The main point to get out of this agreement was the forever bit,
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Regardless of the intent expressed here, the Treaty of Union is not irrevocable. No law is. Joining the EU was supposed to be 'forever' too. Thatcher herself insisted on it.

Margaret Thatcher 1975 said:
'I think it's absolutely vital that people should turn out in this referendum and vote for us to stay in Europe so that the question is settled once and for all.'
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Dave85 said:
Was a really good conference and you can entirely understand her reasoning. I still think it's bad for Scotland but if she has had enough then it would be worse to keep going.
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^^ This. I respect her for deciding that it's time to stop, instead of pushing on regardless. It's a mark of political integrity.
 
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She was clearly going to resign soon anyway with all the hints she was giving out. I think pushing GRA (not going to go into it, but it was hardly as bad as it's largely evangelical opponents say it was) when it was no longer something the Tories were pushing during May's government was partially a very shiny object for her critics to bawl their eyes out at that I doubt she cares much for herself in a personal capacity as a means to absorb the blame for it and move on since the press have more than expended their 'predictions' of her demise so will have to just accept it.

Suspect Drakeford won't last much longer either considering his recent loss.
 
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