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Thoroughly looking forward to using this, although i'm expecting a few bugs to begin with 
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Caporegime
The bottom line is AMD have been guilty of spreading their resources too thin and would do well to concentrate on getting quality hardware on the shelves.
Sorry but that is the truth.
At least as far as AMD goes I have not jumped ship and will continue to support them.
Mantle was crucial, someone had to do it.
But your not wrong.
still, on the CPU front its looking like Zen is what everyone hopes it is, Rumoured testing has it at Haswell IPC (This is architectural, its irrespective of what node it will be made on, it could yet be higher) there will be an 8 core 16 thread version of it for AM4.
That would make AMD relevant in CPU's again.
16nm HBM2 GPU's will arrive next year. and its all wrapped up with nice software.
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Mantle was crucial, someone had to do it.
But your not wrong.
still, on the CPU front its looking like Zen is what everyone hopes it is, Rumoured testing has it at Haswell IPC (This is architectural, its irrespective of what node it will be made on, it could yet be higher) there will be an 8 core 16 thread version of it for AM4.
That would make AMD relevant in CPU's again.
16nm HBM2 GPU's will arrive next year. and its all wrapped up with nice software.
Heard that before somewhere... Twice... Three times a charm?
Soldato
Mantle was crucial, someone had to do it.
But your not wrong.
still, on the CPU front its looking like Zen is what everyone hopes it is, Rumoured testing has it at Haswell IPC (This is architectural, its irrespective of what node it will be made on, it could yet be higher) there will be an 8 core 16 thread version of it for AM4.
That would make AMD relevant in CPU's again.
16nm HBM2 GPU's will arrive next year. and its all wrapped up with nice software.
So it will be 2 generations behind Intel by the time it launches then
Caporegime
So it will be 2 generations behind Intel by the time it launches then
Just means the 8 core 16 thread isn't going to be £800, or more with the way Intel are going with jacking the prices up. the new 8 thread i7 is what, £350?
Soldato
But not a commercial success. Will amd get royalties for any off the spawns of mantle ie vulkan?
Soldato
Not if they carry on the gpu pricing mantra.
Soldato
If their processors are utilised more under the new Api's=higher performance negating the Intel advantage, then Mantle done it's job.
Caporegime
If its the same performance as Haswell its going to be 10% clock for clock slower than whatever Intel have at the time.
With Intel's brand power AMD already have to sell at 40% less, so if the then 8 thread i7 is £380 the 8 thread AMD would be £230.
People don't buy AMD CPU's unless they cost significantly less than Intel.
Caporegime
Yes they did and no one bought it so it had to come down to AMD levels.
Microsoft would not have given 2 hoots about an api that at best only 30% of pc gamers could / would use.
Just think, without direct x 11 mantle would never have been thrown together.
They are after your money as are any other company.
Just think, without direct x 11 mantle would never have been thrown together.
They are after your money as are any other company.
Caporegime
No, but they do care about consoles and the console API they had at the time was junk.
I think AMD offered Mantle as part of the console deal but with conditions, that the API would become the new DX standard on PC too, MS refused and AMD launched for PC anyway, as Mantle.
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Crimson is good news for Radeon owners. It means that Koduri and the Radeon Technology Group is doing something to sort out the software side of their business. Hopefully it will one day rival GFE for features...that would be nice.
The thing is for quite a number of years Nvidia users have constantly spewed BS about how Radeon drivers were much worse than Nvidia drivers etc..etc.. We know this is not true in reality no matter how many times you keep shouting it out at the top of your voices....same with everything else they spout....keep dragging up old news to keep the green flag flying and the red one at half mast.
It doesnt really matter what Radeon do to hardware or software, as Nvidia users will always find something negative to say about it. If the software turns out to be great then they will say "But isnt it a crappy looking interface" etc..etc..and vice versa.
The thing is Radeon Tech are looking into it and making changes which are IMHO for the better....that is a good thing as far as I am concerned. I am a relatively new owner of a Fury Tri-X and I am very happy with my card. Freesync is awesomely smooth and gaming is great.
Go Radeon!!
The thing is for quite a number of years Nvidia users have constantly spewed BS about how Radeon drivers were much worse than Nvidia drivers etc..etc.. We know this is not true in reality no matter how many times you keep shouting it out at the top of your voices....same with everything else they spout....keep dragging up old news to keep the green flag flying and the red one at half mast.
It doesnt really matter what Radeon do to hardware or software, as Nvidia users will always find something negative to say about it. If the software turns out to be great then they will say "But isnt it a crappy looking interface" etc..etc..and vice versa.
The thing is Radeon Tech are looking into it and making changes which are IMHO for the better....that is a good thing as far as I am concerned. I am a relatively new owner of a Fury Tri-X and I am very happy with my card. Freesync is awesomely smooth and gaming is great.
Go Radeon!!
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Crimson is good news for Radeon owners. It means that Koduri and the Radeon Technology Group is doing something to sort out the software side of their business. Hopefully it will one day rival GFE for features...that would be nice.
The thing is for quite a number of years Nvidia users have constantly spewed BS about how Radeon drivers were much worse than Nvidia drivers etc..etc.. We know this is not true in reality no matter how many times you keep shouting it out at the top of your voices....same with everything else they spout....keep dragging up old news to keep the green flag flying and the red one at half mast.
It doesnt really matter what Radeon do to hardware or software, as Nvidia users will always find something negative to say about it. If the software turns out to be great then they will say "But isnt it a crappy looking interface" etc..etc..and vice versa.
The thing is Radeon Tech are looking into it and making changes which are IMHO for the better....that is a good thing as far as I am concerned. I am a relatively new owner of a Fury Tri-X and I am very happy with my card. Freesync is awesomely smooth and gaming is great.
Go Radeon!!
They only feel the need to spout it to make their purchase relevant, insecurity at its finest.
I'm very excited to see AMD give their software a new lease on life. I look forward to seeing what AMD comes out with in the next few years.
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I'm wondering actually if anyone has done a comparison of CPU prices in relation to die size since intel have been dominating? This should let us know just how bad AMDs current position has affected market prices. For instance are we paying £800 for a CPU that has a die size notably smaller than previous generations, I know it's more complicated than that with clock speeds etc also a consideration but with recent generations die size is the most important factor.