Google Fiber

They talk about getting rid of the "bottleneck" in the videos so I imagine they'll be aiming for no limits... We'll have to see!
 
Google is by far one of the best things to happen to society in the last 50 odd years.

Although i have concerns about what may "actually" go on behind Google, if at all anything, i think the good they have done far outweighs any problems.

Although its a stupid thing to say, I would rather have a Google monopoly than a BT one.
 
Marky said:
They talk about getting rid of the "bottleneck" in the videos so I imagine they'll be aiming for no limits... We'll have to see!
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In the terms and conditions it says that they will traffic manage.
However it's different from what a few of the ISPs do here which is traffic manage P2P, google said it will apply for all protocols.

I actually doubt this is going to be implemented in the UK as probably the next step of the BT FTTC layout is going to be FTTH.
 
RomanNose said:
In the terms and conditions it says that they will traffic manage.
However it's different from what a few of the ISPs do here which is traffic manage P2P, google said it will apply for all protocols.
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Eek isn't that going to be even worse than what limits we currently have to deal with?
 
I believe the idea behind this is that Google wants to see how people use the internet when speed restrictions are removed so that they will be better able design products that people want going forward.

At least that is what they were saying a few years ago when they were looking for the host genuine pig city.
 
PermaBanned said:
Erm... has it?
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Have a look at America where you might only have one company to choose from and no matter how much you pay it will still have data caps.
Here you can pay for Be broadband if you want a decent service at a cost or pay talktalk to have terrible service. The problem with ADSL at the moment is not the ISPs, it's the underlying technology.
 
MBPs =/- Mbs!!!!!

1000MBPs = not what Google are offering. 1000Mbps though indeed. standalone SSDs can't even transfer at 1GB/sec!

On the Google 1Gbit line people will be downloading at 125MB/sec.

Rather epic but I can see MANY MANY complaints from every day punters running laptops and **** computers as their harddrives just can't handle that kind of speed.
 
mrk said:
MBPs =/- Mbs!!!!!

1000MBPs = not what Google are offering. 1000Mbps though indeed. standalone SSDs can't even transfer at 1GB/sec!

On the Google 1Gbit line people will be downloading at 125MB/sec.

Rather epic but I can see MANY MANY complaints from every day punters running laptops and **** computers as their harddrives just can't handle that kind of speed.
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Hard drives should be fine - We already have SSDs that can handle 550MB/sec - By the time this is available, there probably won't be any hard drives that won't be able to handle it.

To quote a Redditor:

That day will never come (that hard drives will become a bottleneck) - transmission rates are limited by the speed of light (and the conductivity of the transmission medium, which is a more significant issue at the moment). Since "the internet" will not be physically closer to you than your hard drive, and since "the internet" is itself served off of HDDs and SDDs (ignoring cache..), it will always be possible to have a faster physical setup than one served over the network.
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I don't think 'everyday punters' would be able to tell that it wasn't running at full capacity. Raises an interesting point though, just because the hard drive write speed is lower than the potential download speed would that actually lower the download speed? Is stuff like that not stored in RAM before being written?
 
Interesting to see whether Google is successful. I remember reading about how in Carolina, the residents were sick of having some of the worst quality of connections in the USA due to being failed by the telecommunications companies, so decided to work with the local government to build their own infrastructure. Eventually the telecommunications corporations got some judge to rule that this was anti-competitive. Go figure.
 
Marky said:
Hard drives should be fine - We already have SSDs that can handle 550MB/sec - By the time this is available, there probably won't be any hard drives that won't be able to handle it.

To quote a Redditor:
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But the old hard drives in the machines people don't upgrade won't suddenly become better.
 
OhEsEcks said:
The conspiracy theorist in me doesn't like this.
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Scarily I'm with you on this, although for me it's more to do with not wanting to see one commercial company (who let's face it, is only there to make money for its shareholders) dominate the internet to that degree.
 
Marky said:
Hard drives should be fine - We already have SSDs that can handle 550MB/sec - By the time this is available, there probably won't be any hard drives that won't be able to handle it.
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What desktop harddrives can pull > 100MB/s write speeds sustained? I only know of Seagate Cheetahs but they're fibre channel/sas.

Also in the high street computers that land in the homes of people looking for cheap (but fast, natch) connections like Google Fibre?

I still feel they won't be able to peak such a connection although I wouldn't mind hearing how peeps are doing over in countries that currently have a large Gbit internet setup, Japan/Singapore wasn't it?
 
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