Google Pixel and Pixel XL

iPhones hold their value because there's no 3rd party cheaper option, you can't go to someone else and buy an iphone that has the 7 plus features at a lower price. You can do exactly this with android.
 
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are you all so sure iphones hold their value so well in comparison? i'm not saying they don't, but i keep hearing it without any real proof.

can someone work out this.

how much was the 6P worth a year ago. a phone that hardly anyone knew about, not at all marketed. then how much can i be sold second hand for now. mine is in brand new condition, i've seen prices of £300 said, perhaps more if it's in such a good condition. I think i paid £550 for this brand new. so that's £250 lost.

Anyone do a comparison for iphone 6S and confirm my prices for 6P?

i'm not entirely convinced iphone will be better or enough to even be a reason to buy an iphone over a pixel phone.

also take into account nexus 6P is not a marketed phone. Pixel will be different 100%.
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It has historically been the case. Whether it's enough difference to dictate your choice of phone, I don't think it should either way.

I think that no matter the level of marketing, the Pixel won't get near the likes of the S7 Edge, let alone the iPhone. That sort of brand takes years to build and you need a unique product to gain immense traction, which the Pixel is not. The iPhone was, in its day.

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iPhones hold their value because there's no 3rd party cheaper option, you can't go to someone else and buy an iphone that has the 7 plus features at a lower price. You can do exactly this with android.
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A very good point, though there are cheaper iPhone options such as the SE, but they are still expensive compared to the cheap Android options.
 
Google doesn't have brand power?

They are only the second most valuable brand out there....

http://www.forbes.com/powerful-brands/list/

This pixel phone isn't being sold as just another android phone, it is being sold as a "phone by google"

They have set aside $50 million just for marketing the phone in the UK.

Here is how much apple and Samsung have put into world wide marketing for their phones:

http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/29/the-cost-of-selling-galaxies/

The phone is not leaps and bounds better than the iphone or galaxy s7 but it is certainly not an awful phone and has its own plus points over those phones, as I said, if I was willing to spend that much in the first place, I would still get the pixel over the iphone 7/gs 7.

The only thing google need to get right is the quality of their marketing/advertising (especially in phone shops) and make sure that they provide massive incentive/commissions i.e. bribes to phone shops/sales assistants to push their phones onto the average joes.
 
Google have plenty of brand power, but getting an expensive phone into the hands of the masses is very difficult. The tech community don't seem that excited by the Pixel so it'll have to be some amazing marketing.
 
Well I've done it. £820 for a bleedin' phone. Pixel XL in black from CPW.

Kind of annoying only a month back I spent £50 on Game of Thrones in the Play store, if only I had the £50 voucher back then. I'll probably end up wasting this £50 on something I don't need... (Can it be used on hardware? Daydream VR for example?)
 
The top end samsung phones and iphones are expensive but people have no problems paying that much for them either so it will be the same for google, if people want the phone by google, they will pay.

They certainly have the resources to get the phone into the hands of the masses.

Tech community is a small % of where sales come from, most of the hard core tech. community haven't been impressed with apples efforts but they still sell well and even when you have the vast majority of tech people backing you, it doesn't necessarily mean the phone will sell well i.e. htc one m7, majority of reviewers and community on the likes of xda thought it was better than samsung's flagship at the time but it still got steam rolled by samsung for sales. HTC are a special case though, they had/have zero brand power and their marketing/advertising was pitiful.

But yes, Google need to nail the marketing/advertising from the get go, there is no room for error now especially with all the issues surrounding Samsung/note 7 atm and to an extent Apple.

It will certainly be interesting to see what google's demonstration area is like in phone shops especially CPW.
 
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Question, what was the Note 7 launch pricing like? Is it feasible that a lot of Note 7 owners could switch to PXL, as suggested?

[edit] Seems like it was £750 (for 64GB?), so it's actually plausible for people to switch to the PXL 32GB for £720...
 
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If I can get EE to swap out the note 7 for the pixel XL 128GB then that's the only way a Pixel will make it into my household.

:D
 
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The other key thing, as you sort of touched on: contracts. Most people aren't dropping £900 on the phone, they get them on contract. iPhones tend to cost above average in this area (but people want one regardless), Google would do well to get the price lower here.

Ultimately though I just can't see it doing well, I think the next Samsung phone will still outsell the Pixel by miles, but we'll see.
 
Prices are far too high for the 128GB XL on Pay Monthly. Ridiculous pricing from EE/CPW - US customers are apparently getting the VR unit's for free too whereas here in the UK, we get a sodding £50 credit, and/or a 3 month Play Music subscription (which everyone gets anyway).
 
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unless i'm reading that incorrectly, i was right?
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You'd have to look at the % drops, which I haven't worked out (you can get the data in table format from swappa.com).

Also the data only goes back 6 months, whereas ideally we'd want it from launch... it's also odd that September saw an uptick in prices of the 6P, but a big drop for the iP6s?

Just eyeballing the gradients, I would say the depreciation rates aren't too dissimilar, but like I say, proper analysis needed! :p


[edit] I would also suggest that the US is a less "iCentric" market than the UK, so perhaps UK 2nd hand iPhone prices are more stable?
 
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Yup they need to have appropriate contract prices too.

I think they would be better of going with cheaper plans as well but I think their thought process is "that if samsung and apple can get away with high prices on launch then why can't we?"

They have the potential to do great considering they have a very strong base to start with but at the same time, as you touched upon earlier, samsung and apple have a history of releasing great devices for so many years and did so when the smartphone market was just starting out so google have a lot of catching up to do in that regard.
 
They basically need to smash it with the advertising and incentives very aggressively, in order to steal Samsung/Apple sales...

(And obviously follow through with a stable and well-supported product!)
 
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