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No, that makes no sense. Those films you've mentioned aren't pornography, they're films.
Just because it depicts a rape doesn't mean it's porn, it'd be the same for Irreversible which I imagine has a far nastier rape scene than the ones above

I'm pretty sure the scene in irreversible is as bad if not worse than anything in these simulated rape porns. So why should one be ok and the other give you 3 years in jail for having it on your PC? It doesn't make any sense to me.
 
No, that makes no sense. Those films you've mentioned aren't pornography, they're films.
Just because it depicts a rape doesn't mean it's porn, it'd be the same for Irreversible which I imagine has a far nastier rape scene than the ones above

BING! Wrong. It was for exactly this reason that the BBFC cut the child rape scene in A Ma Soeur! on DVD but left the cinema release intact, since people could replay the DVD version again and again out of context. It's not about the film, it's about the scene, which can be taken as porn under certain mindsets.

The BBFC noted:

  • Cut required to scene of sexual assault on young girl to address the specific danger that video enables the scene to be used to stimulate and validate abusive action.
Further details were supplied after an email query to the BBFC:
The cinema version was passed '18' uncut following expert legal advice. Nevertheless the Board was concerned by the film's climactic scene, which shows an under-aged girl - played by a 13 year old actress - being raped. Our legal advice confirmed that the scene was not indecent within the meaning of the Protection of Children Act 1978 and the Board therefore agreed to pass the scene intact.

The Board also took the opinion of a leading consultant clinical psychologist at the time of the original cinema submission. He expressed a concern that, in his clinical experience, the rape sequence could potentially be used by paedophiles to 'groom' their victims. The Board was satisfied, however, that this concern about potential abuse was minimal in the context of an adult cinema release where the possibility of children being taken to the cinema for grooming was remote.

Videos, by contrast, are more easily accessible for personal use by abusive individuals and the risk of the video's use for grooming was felt to be far higher. Furthermore, the potential for the scene to be played repeatedly and out of context on video concerned the Board far more so than on film. It was felt therefore that, on video, the scene presented a particular problem as both stimulus material and to validate abusive behaviour. The Board's concerns were confirmed by a further opinion from a second consultant psychologist specifically in relation to the video release, which echoed the opinion of her colleague. The scene was therefore removed in its entirety on video.
 
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You have to wonder how far the government is going to push this


Next it will be jail time for possession of pirated material
 
if that's the film i'm thinking of, where the hell did that ending come from? :eek::D

As far as I remember, the fat young girl runs into the woods at the end after her sister is killed, only to be pursued by the now murderous "maniac". In the DVD it's rather awkward because he just pins her down and then it cuts, so the rape is implied. However, it does come across rather strangely and when I saw it I thought, "eh, what was supposed to have happened there?!"
 
[thinks back when I had family visiting and was looking for short lengths of coat hanger metal to hang up some heavy acoustic panels and searched for " 8 inch stiff rod " on google images]
 
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GOOD. No time for peados. Or however you spell it.

Parents sent me to a private education boarding school, and in our french class the teacher used to record us, and in his Star Trek club, never thought much of it, I mean what 11 year old does right? Turns out he got arrested and inprisoned for being part of a kiddy pr0n ring later on, makes me shiver to know he wanted to do bad things to me and everyone else in my class!
 
GOOD. No time for peados. Or however you spell it.

Parents sent me to a private education boarding school, and in our french class the teacher used to record us, and in his Star Trek club, never thought much of it, I mean what 11 year old does right? Turns out he got arrested and inprisoned for being part of a kiddy pr0n ring later on, makes me shiver to know he wanted to do bad things to me and everyone else in my class!

Just as I left senior school ('88) our drama teachers got caught.. they'd borrowed the school video equipment to record their noncing of school kids in their home and forgot to take the video out when they returned the gear.
 
GOOD. No time for peados. Or however you spell it.

Parents sent me to a private education boarding school, and in our french class the teacher used to record us, and in his Star Trek club, never thought much of it, I mean what 11 year old does right? Turns out he got arrested and inprisoned for being part of a kiddy pr0n ring later on, makes me shiver to know he wanted to do bad things to me and everyone else in my class!

Yeah, same with our coach driver Cliff, an abhorrant ogre of a man. He kept offering afterschool trips and taking us up strange alleyways, no doubt as some sort of 'recce'. Later he got busted for child ppr0nz.
 
It does make me wonder if the School knew and got rid of him. He "moved on" in Q3 2002 and then got busted for indecent images and videos in 2004 at the next School!!!!
 
This seems like a scary bit of legislation

3 years for possession of a video ????

I could go out and stab someone and get less or rape someone and get not a lot more

But it's a slippery slope

Today it's rape porn what's next? Any porn that doesn't meet a government standard?

It smacks of one of the women's rights groups lobbying hard and government caving with a knee jerk reaction
 
Well, its a difficult thing to tackle and you need to start somewhere.

I think most people would agree that limiting access to indecent images of minors is a beneficial thing. Even if in reality it (this particular measure of blocking certain words on Google) wont do jack to stop those who are already doing it.

As for having videos and I assume watching videos?? Of rape porn and it being classified as illegal with a punishment of up to 3 years (is it classified as UP TO<<< 3 years? thats a big difference than just 3 years) then yer some will say that is one step away from a pretty slippery slope into dictating what is acceptable and what isn't.

However I think blocking and making it illegal to view rape porn is a good thing or at least not a bad thing. Let's be real for a second; rape is a horrible thing, its illegal and just so far away from a "normal" thing to be wanting to watch. I fail to see the issue with making it illegal.
 
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I always like to remind people in these threads that it's also illegal to have pictures* of fictitious creatures (eg minotaurs) in sexual situations, if it could reasonably be believed that the minotaur depicted was underage. How do you decide? Apparently you show the image to a group and see how many think the minotaur is under 18.

I think it sums up the direction we're moving in quite nicely. Yes there is real crime being committed by a select few individuals. People you want to catch and criminalise.

But I wonder if our response as a society is becoming to cast the net as wide as possible, and hope that at least some of the people we brand as deviants were indeed the dangerous ones.

*not derived from actual abuse images, or real people. 100% the product of imagination.
 
I always like to remind people in these threads that it's also illegal to have pictures* of fictitious creatures (eg minotaurs) in sexual situations, if it could reasonably be believed that the minotaur depicted was underage. How do you decide? Apparently you show the image to a group and see how many think the minotaur is under 18.

I think it sums up the direction we're moving in quite nicely. Yes there is real crime being committed by a select few individuals. People you want to catch and criminalise.

But I wonder if our response as a society is becoming to cast the net as wide as possible, and hope that at least some of the people we brand as deviants were indeed the dangerous ones.

*not derived from actual abuse images, or real people. 100% the product of imagination.

Yes but the age of consent for humans is 16 in this country, not for minotaurs. We don't stamp ages of consent on badgers or rabbits.

I don't know what the age of consent is for minotaurs but I don't think the necessity to create a benchmark has arisen.
 
Yes but the age of consent for humans is 16 in this country, not for minotaurs. We don't stamp ages of consent on badgers or rabbits.

I don't know what the age of consent is for minotaurs but I don't think the necessity to create a benchmark has arisen.
Have you been propositioning Minotaurs, badgers and rabbits? :D
 
Have you been propositioning Minotaurs, badgers and rabbits? :D

Doesn't matter if I do, there's no age of consent I need to worry about.

Well, bestiality may be illegal but if I do it in an enclosed field there's no-one to tell. And the minotaur tryst is just between myself and Greek myth.
 
Yes but the age of consent for humans is 16 in this country, not for minotaurs. We don't stamp ages of consent on badgers or rabbits.

I don't know what the age of consent is for minotaurs but I don't think the necessity to create a benchmark has arisen.

Possessing an image (drawing, naturally) of an underage minotaur is an offense which can get you on the sex offenders register.

All that has to happen is a group of people have to conclude that the minotaur looks underage (or that the artist is suggesting this). This could be something as simple as the minotaur holding a teddy bear whilst .... erm, you know.

That's not a joke! This is real legislation that already exists.

My point is, who the hell cares what you get off to, if no real children are involved? Well, apparently the people making/enforcing our laws care a whole bunch.

Judges already ruled that the target of abuse does not have to be *real* for the abuse to have occurred. I kid you not - that's an actual legal precedent.
 
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