Poll: Gordon Brown - yeh or ney

Will Gordon Brown be a better or worse PM than Tony Blair?

  • Gordon Brown will be better

    Votes: 35 8.8%
  • Gordon Brown will be worse

    Votes: 262 65.8%
  • Equally as good/bad

    Votes: 101 25.4%

  • Total voters
    398
Chrisp7 said:
I think the tories are needed so swing the balance a little back the oher way - ie lower taxes, more efficiency, less bureaucracy, more business focus. Otherwise our economy may well seriously slip under the current administration.

I think the economy is doing all right at the moment. The Tories will just give a bit more money to those who don't really need it so I can't say I'd prefer them.

Why doesn't anyone want to give the Liberal Democrats a try? :(

Phnom_Penh said:
ney, he's an uncharismatic ****.

ROFL that's a brilliant summary.

AcidHell2 said:
I think its time to show the top three parties what we want and vote one of the small parties in, like UKIP..

Maybe, but not those UKIP maniacs or Kilroy or something.
 
I don't think "what the public wants" should ever be exactly what the public gets. A government, like any other organisational hierarchy, is effectively a business that needs to manage itself as it sees fit. We elect our representatives, but we do we do so knowing that we're putting them there to make the decisions - not us. :)

Saying how much you'd prefer or dislike any party head to be in power is as flawed as is it is lazy criticism - you're voting in a party to take over (or continue) the running of the aformentioned business. Whinging every 4 years when it turns out you didnt get it 100% your way and extolling the virtues of the 'other side' won't get us anywhere. The UK electorate swings like a pendulum from conservative to labour, labour to conservative and back again because they can't see governments, or the UK as a whole, in the big picture.
 
Crispy Pigeon said:
I think the economy is doing all right at the moment. The Tories will just give a bit more money to those who don't really need it so I can't say I'd prefer them.

Why doesn't anyone want to give the Liberal Democrats a try? :(


The economy is doing okish now, I think it could do a bit better, lower taxed and more pro business. I think the economy is doing worse and will do worse because of Labour.

The Lib Dems are too left for my likeing - too pro Europe and too anti business = not good for the economy.

Edit I just realise what he is - a smug tit!
 
Chrisp7 said:
The economy is doing okish now, I think it could do a bit better, lower taxed and more pro business. I think the economy is doing worse and will do worse because of Labour.

The Lib Dems are too left for my likeing - too pro Europe and too anti business = not good for the economy.
It would be nice to have a party which did the best thing for the country rather than the economy/business... and no the two things are not the same.
 
dirtydog said:
It would be nice to have a party which did the best thing for the country rather than the economy/business... and no the two things are not the same.

Whats is right for the economy is right for the country pretty much. Obviously not too far, but a healthy economy = prosperity = better services = happier people.
 
dirtydog said:
It would be nice to have a party which did the best thing for the country rather than the economy/business... and no the two things are not the same.

It would be nice for a party to do what's best for the country and not best for the government too. :(

What happened to having the statesmen of history in politics? It seems whomever you vote for, the government gets in.
 
Chrisp7 said:
Whats is right for the economy is right for the country pretty much. Obviously not too far, but a healthy economy = prosperity = better services = happier people.
So goes the theory and conventional wisdom, but it by no means always works out that way. Our current open-door mass immigration policy is entirely about providing cheap short term economic growth and pleasing business by keeping wage inflation down, but it sure ain't helping the country or its people in a real sense.
 
dirtydog said:
So goes the theory and conventional wisdom, but it by no means always works out that way. Our current open-door mass immigration policy is entirely about providing cheap short term economic growth and pleasing business by keeping wage inflation down, but it sure ain't helping the country or its people in a real sense.

Sure - I suspect the tories will be better at that too!
 
Chronos-X said:
I don't think "what the public wants" should ever be exactly what the public gets. A government, like any other organisational hierarchy, is effectively a business that needs to manage itself as it sees fit. We elect our representatives, but we do we do so knowing that we're putting them there to make the decisions - not us. :)

Saying how much you'd prefer or dislike any party head to be in power is as flawed as is it is lazy criticism - you're voting in a party to take over (or continue) the running of the aformentioned business. Whinging every 4 years when it turns out you didnt get it 100% your way and extolling the virtues of the 'other side' won't get us anywhere. The UK electorate swings like a pendulum from conservative to labour, labour to conservative and back again because they can't see governments, or the UK as a whole, in the big picture.

I'm guessing you don't know much about politics as your post is very miss informed which is probably why everyone ignored it. Firstly a governmental party is nothing like a business because it doesn't rely on efficiency and profit margins to continue to exist; it relies on being voted in at the next election.
Because of this governments are far from efficient and in the case of our government grossly inefficient. As for your point of whining about not getting it "100% our way", I don't think we are even getting it 10% our way let alone near 100% so it's much more serious than you imply. Your implying that the quarms we have with government are over little inconsequential things and it couldn't be further from the truth. We are saying there needs to be a complete rehaul of most things in government and public services.

Off topic, but your post in the christianity thread was clearly flaming as it was a sarcastic post that served no relevance to the OP.
 
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