GordyR's Beginners Guide to Bodybuilding

Would be better doing:

Monday - Gym
Tuesday - Gym
Wednesday - Rest
Thursday - Gym
Friday - Gym
Saturday - Rest
Sunday - Gym

With your routine you've got 4 days straight saturday to tuesday, whereas the one above it 3 days/2days/3days/2days. Of course it all depends on your commitments.

It would be harder to make a friday to the gym, but I'll see what I can do.
 
Ok what about

Monday - Gym
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Gym
Thursday - Gym
Friday - Rest
Saturday - Gym
Sunday - Gym
 
there is a rough calculator

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/harris-benedict-equation/

but its just a rough estimate as a starting point to adjust from

my details:

6ft 3
16 stones, 224 pounds


right, it says I need about 3500 per day. I do weights 3 times a week so used 1.55 for the second part of the equation.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/calpro.htm

I used the above to calculate protein intake .

Early Health Department Recommendation:
Each Day You Should Take In 224 Grams Of Protein.

Average Bodybuilder Recommendations:
Each Day You Should Take In 403 Grams Of Protein. :eek:

When counting your daily protein intake do I also count protein in food such as say potatoes or bread?
 
Ok what about

Monday - Gym
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Gym
Thursday - Gym
Friday - Rest
Saturday - Gym
Sunday - Gym

Hmmm, gonna have to get this sorted out then I'll be able to be sure on what days I can use. But a rest day to every 2 days of gym is fine yeah?
 
the post earlier about bread has got me wondering. I normally have 2 slices of bread in the morning, 4 during the day at work, and sometimes 2 again in the evening, all wholemeal bread. how exactly is too much bread bad for you?
 
I hear drinks that contain citric acid can cause creatine to break down into creatinine. Can this happen with carbonated drinks?
 
the post earlier about bread has got me wondering. I normally have 2 slices of bread in the morning, 4 during the day at work, and sometimes 2 again in the evening, all wholemeal bread. how exactly is too much bread bad for you?

bread at night = too much bread. For loosing weight anyway. Long term carbs (low GI i believe) hinder weight loss badly. For a normal person though (not slimming/cutting) that amount is fine.
 
bread at night = too much bread. For loosing weight anyway. Long term carbs (low GI i believe) hinder weight loss badly. For a normal person though (not slimming/cutting) that amount is fine.

lol

ermmmmmmmm

do you have anything to back up your claims?
 
I'll back them up :p. Low gi foods like bread will release carbs slowly while you sleep.

Edit : and the significance of that should be pretty obvious ;).

i know what he means....you dont 'need' carbs while you are sleeping etc...

but surely it depends on the whole diet and lifestyle? what if the workout is at 8pm?
 
i know what he means....you dont 'need' carbs while you are sleeping etc...
actually, you do. You burn carbs while you're sleeping, having bread before bed will give your body carbs to burn. Not having bread will mean it will burn its own carbs, which is what you want, n'est pas? :p
 
i know what he means....you dont 'need' carbs while you are sleeping etc...

but surely it depends on the whole diet and lifestyle? what if the workout is at 8pm?


Yeah as Phnom_penh said, low GI before bed means no weight loss in your sleep. Hence why in my original post i stated that this was only for slimming or cutting, not as part of a balanced diet. Cutting out complex carbs after about 2pm can significantly increase weight loss, this is simply because your body has no sugars to burn and must obtain them from the breakdown of fats.

If you were already slim however and looking to bulk up, taking carbs before bed can be beneficial and help keep the body in a more anabolic state.
 
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/calpro.htm

I used the above to calculate protein intake .

Early Health Department Recommendation:
Each Day You Should Take In 224 Grams Of Protein.

Average Bodybuilder Recommendations:
Each Day You Should Take In 403 Grams Of Protein. :eek:

When counting your daily protein intake do I also count protein in food such as say potatoes or bread?
I'd say somewhere in between those two. I'm now a bit lighter than you... hit my target of 210lbs :D and I aim for 300g of protein usually. Though I'm going to try an experiement for the next month and aim for the upper target of 400g to see of I notice any difference, I'll report back on that one (if my kidneys don't implode first of course ;))

Yes count everything towards your daily totals.
 
actually, you do. You burn carbs while you're sleeping, having bread before bed will give your body carbs to burn. Not having bread will mean it will burn its own carbs, which is what you want, n'est pas? :p
I'm confused by the bread thing. Why would anyone want to eat bread before going to bed? :confused:

When sleeping you probably burn less carbs than at any other part of the day. You certainly don't need to be 'carbing up' for a sleep imho. You'll also be burning fat, infact as I understand it and also depending on bodytype, you'll be burning more fat than anything else.

What kind of bread are we talking about here? Not many are any good at all and should be avoided, some examples would be good. White bread acts like sugar in the body for example. Burgen Bread is the best I know of but it's the most expensive and it's soy based, which has it's own implications. Of all the foods I've tried cutting out of my diet over the years, I'd say bread is one of the most noticeable. This stuff does seem to make the body store fat much easier.

I've always eaten a high protein (mainly casein) meal with some fat before bed, with zero carbs.
Or protein using deamination (eh Jeff ;))
Jeezus, don't set that off again! :p
 
I'm confused by the bread thing. Why would anyone want to eat bread before going to bed? :confused:

What kind of bread are we talking about here? Not many are any good at all and should be avoided, some examples would be good. White bread acts like sugar in the body for example. Burgen Bread is the best I know of but it's the most expensive and it's soy based, which has it's own implications. Of all the foods I've tried cutting out of my diet over the years, I'd say bread is one of the most noticeable. This stuff does seem to make the body store fat much easier.

I've always eaten a high protein (mainly casein) meal with some fat before bed, with zero carbs.
Ask A2Z :p, I was saying why you shouldn't.

When you sleep, leptin's released to suppress appetite, it also slows calorie burning, so eating wholemeal bread, which is about 220kcal a slice, isn't a good idea when cutting.

I think the soy controversy has now been disproved. It's been shown that bodybuilders using soy protein had almost identical average gains compared to ones using whey/etc.

Mmmmm Quark ;).
 
I just had a can of sprite. :rolleyes: Didn't notice its 10.6g of carbs which are all sugars until after I was half way through it.

I would guess fizzy drinks are a big no no?

edit: what about chewing gum, i usually eat about 2-3 sticks of chewing gum per day. Wrigleys spearmint.
 
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