GordyR's Beginners Guide to Bodybuilding

Morba said:
hard working cardio after a weights session is not the best idea in the world.
as for eating in a restaurant, eat what you want. there is plenty of scope in the rest of the day / week to manage the calories.
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Okay, why is it not the best idea?
 
Is there seriously anything that works for stretch marks? I keep getting constant no def answer it's always yes this stuff is good then someone else says it's crap. Im getting some serious tears in my back, to the left of the middle spine it's like horrizontal lines going across about 8 of them going down, looks like freddy kruegar got my back.
 
Morba said:
you are growing, be proud of it :]

bio oil is supposedly very good
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Okay I don't mind some stretch marks but I'd rather not have my body looking all torn up by stretch marks. The white lines that look like scars on my biceps, okay fine but the bright red tears up my back, armpits etc i'd rather not have more than I've already got as it is permanent. Yes it's great im growing etc etc but the fact there permanent and it leaves a extremely bad mess gets to me. So other than surgery theres nothing that can fix them? I was going to get that bio-oil, it's like £8, have you personally used it?

How is it the big body builders don't seem to have stretch marks? are they using something?
 
they go silvery after a while. if they didnt, then i would look like i had been attacked by a few tigers.
big body builders do get them, its rare for people to have skin that can stretch to the limits that most normal people take their size, let alone pro BBers
 
Morba said:
they go silvery after a while. if they didnt, then i would look like i had been attacked by a few tigers.
big body builders do get them, its rare for people to have skin that can stretch to the limits that most normal people take their size, let alone pro BBers
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yeah i've got the silvery ones on the hips, stomach, biceps. And the red ones on the back, pec (armpit area) and one red tear quite large about 10cm coming from the hip up to the midriff.
 
Morba said:
dont worry about them tbh, otherwise you are in for years of hating your body because of them.
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Im trying not to worry about them but can it only get worse or will it stay like this? I mean if it's going to get worse that'll really annoy me.
 
Morba said:
they go silvery after a while. if they didnt, then i would look like i had been attacked by a few tigers.
big body builders do get them, its rare for people to have skin that can stretch to the limits that most normal people take their size, let alone pro BBers
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lol hell yeah, i had stretch marks BEFORE id ever seen a dumbell.

Pro BB'ers are pretty tight so its doubtfull you'd see much till they shrink down in later life

Oh and you wanna see a bad mess you should see my back, i have some scarring condition that means i get lumps of scartissue on any injuries to my torso, mix that with teenage acne and you get...

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just for reference thats the permanent appearence of acne where it no longer exists. Like spot fossils if you will.

Gay tbh but wgas eh
 
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Just read the guide.

Lots of very good information there and many questions answered. :)

Thanks dude :cool: - Bit of luck I'll have a body to proud of one day :D
 
SK07 said:
Im trying not to worry about them but can it only get worse or will it stay like this? I mean if it's going to get worse that'll really annoy me.
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they will never disappear, you have torn the skin. best that will happen is they will go silvery when you stop growing. then when you bulk again, they will go red again.
 
There's a thread over on MP about stretch marks. Thought about this discussion when I saw a reply from one of the mods, he really does know his stuff! Hope it helps :)

Wotan said:
Ok, I'm quite an expert on scar tissue. I did have loads due to one or two unfortunate experiences on a motorbike.

Anyway.

1. Take collagen supplements. They work. Slowly, but they do work.
2. In addition to the above take vitamin C and MSM supps. MP sell both.
3. Go to Boots and buy a skin brush. Use it. This also takes time but does work.
4. Buy a dermabrasion flannel from Ebay (about a tenner). Works in the same way as the skin brush but is used in the shower/bath. People use these to get rid of acne scars, stretch marks are a cinch compared to those.
4. Shea butter lotion is good. As is Bio-oil and emu oil (I kid you not) All three work.
5. Take lots of vitamin E and fish oils.
6. If all else fails (and they all take about 3 to 4 months) consider an acid peel. You can use the malic acid from MP for this. it works and is exactly how I removed my own scar tissue (I made up a little formula for myself).
7. Neutragena sell a skin-repair cream containing copper peptides. This also works. Its excellent with one of the peeling/dermabrasion methods and all the more so with the supps mentioned.
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I felt a slight pain in my knee the other day when warming up with deads so I stopped straight away.

I trained legs on Friday and didn't really feel any pain at all, i've got a feeling this may be brought on by leg extensions, so i'm stopping them straight away because I know they are bad for the knee.

It was fine until I walked downstairs a few mins ago then it just started hurting. It feels like there's maybe fluid in it or something. I've just ran out of fish oil so i'll get some more.

Should I maybe get some Cissus? Glucosamine? MSM? All three to help the joints?

I guess deadlifts are a no-no for me tomorrow. Should I do some shrugs instead?

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I woke up this morning and the pain has appeared to have gone, my point still stands about the supplements though so any suggestions? I feel an awkward click in my knee when bending it slowly.

I'm going to drop deadlifts today in hope that it'll allow me to train legs Friday, what should I add to my routine instead?

Back/Biceps
Bent over barbell row
Wide grip pull ups (overhand)
Preacher barbell curls

(Deadlifts are usually my first exercise but I might give them a miss)
 
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