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*** GPU Hierarchy ***

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NVIDIAAMDINTELTier - Suggested Resolution/FPS
RTX 4090Tier A - "Elite Tier"
RTX 4080 Super
RTX 4080
RX 7900XTX
RX 7900XT
Tier B
RTX 4070Ti Super
RTX 3090Ti
RTX 4070Ti
RX 6950XT
RX 7900 GRE
Tier C
RTX 3090
RTX 4070 Super
RTX 3080Ti
RTX 3080 (12GB)
RTX 4070
RTX 3080
RX 6900XT
RX 7800XT
RX 6800XT
Tier D
Titan RTX
RTX 3070Ti
RTX 3070
RTX 2080Ti
Titan V
RX 7700XT
RX 6800
RX 6750XT
Tier E - 4K 60fps / 1440P 144fps
RTX 2080 Super
RTX 4060Ti
RTX 3060Ti
Titan Xp
RTX 2080
RX 6700XT
RX 7600XT
Tier F
Titan X (Pascal)
GTX 1080Ti
RTX 4060
RTX 2070 Super
RX 6700
RX 7600
RX 6650XT
Radeon VII
Intel Arc A770 *Tier G - 1080P 144fps
XBOX Series X Equivalent
RX 5700XT
RX 6600XT
Intel Arc A750 *Tier H
RTX 2070
RTX 3060
RTX 2060 Super
Tier I
PS5 Equivalent
GTX 1080
RTX 2060
RTX 3060 (8GB)
RX 6600
RX 5700
RX Vega 64
Intel Arc A580 *Tier J - 1440P 60fps / VR Gaming
GTX 1070TiRX 5600XTTier K
GTX 1070
GTX 1660Ti
RX Vega 56Tier L
RTX 3050
GTX 1660 Super
Tier M
GTX Titan X (Maxwell)
GTX 980Ti
GTX 1660
RX 590Tier N - 1080P 60fps -
Recommended Entry Level
GTX 1650 Super
GTX 980
GTX 1060 6GB
GTX 690
GTX 780Ti
RX 5500XT
RX 6500XT
RX 580
RX 480
R9 390X
R9 Fury X
Tier O
Xbox One X
GTX 1060 3GB
GTX Titan (Kepler)
GTX 970
R9 Fury
R9 Fury Nano
R9 390
R9 290X
RX 570
Tier P
Xbox Series S Equivalent
GTX 1650RX 6400
R9 290
RX 470
Intel Arc A380 *Tier Q - 900P 60fps
GTX 780HD 7990
R9 380X
R9 280X
HD 7970 Ghz
Tier R
PS4 Pro Equivalent
GTX 770
GTX 1050Ti
GTX 1630
GTX 680
GTX 960
GTX 670
HD 7970
R9 285
R9 380
Tier S - 720P 60fps
GTX 760
GTX 1050
GTX 660Ti
GTX 950
HD 7950
R9 280
R9 270X
Tier T
GTX 660
GTX 650Ti Boost
GTX 750Ti
HD 7870
R9 270
RX 560
R7 370
RX 460
R7 265
R7 260X
HD 7850
HD 7790
Tier U
Xbox One S
Steam Deck
GTX 650Ti
GTX 750
GT 1030
RX Vega 11 (Integrated)
RX 550
R7 360
HD 7770 Ghz
R7 250X
Intel Iris Pro 6200
(Broadwell Integrated)
Tier V
PS4
XBOX One
Nintendo Switch
GTX 745
GTX 650
GT 740
RX Vega 8 (Integrated)
R7 250
HD 7750
Intel UHD Graphics 770
(Alder-lake Integrated)
Tier W
GT 640
GT 635
GT 730
Ryzen 7000 2CU (Integrated)
HD 7730
R5 240
Intel UHD Graphics 750
(Rocket-lake Integrated)
Tier X
GT 630
GT 720
GT 710
Tier Y
GT 620
GT 705
GT 610
Tier Z


- "Elite Tier" is a money no object, absolute no compromise top choice (including new feature support like raytracing)
- I've attempted to take both Raster and Raytracing performance into account, although it's often incredible difficult to balance with NVIDIA cards generally faster at Raytracing, and AMD cards normally offering more raster performance
- Towards the top of the able, the gap between tiers is a lot more variable - there may only be 5% between bottom cards of one tier, and the top card from the tier below, but yet could be 20% between the top and bottom performing cards within the same tier - It's incredibly difficult to average performance out and balance this out! (Older cards were a lot more obvious, as had bigger jumps in performance, and less models/variants)
- Intel ARC Performance is incredibly variable to different games / driver versions and likely to improve going forward

06/05/22 - Added Missing RX590, R9 Fury X/Fury/Fury Nano cards, removed separate 4GB/8GB RX 480 Entries
08/05/22 - Added Additional Tier underneath Elite Tier, 6900XT/6800XT/3080Ti/3080 moved here
09/05/22 - Added Missing Shop Links, Added RTX 3080 (12GB)
10/05/22 - Added 6950XT/6750XT/6650XT
07/04/22 - Added GTX1630
23/08/22 - Added 6700 Non-XT
13/10/22 - Added RTX 4090, Intel Arc A770/A750, Intel UHD770/UHD750
02/11/22 - Added Intel Arc A380, added Intel Arc Shop Links
16/11/22 - Added RTX4080 as Tier B, moved RTX3090 down a tier
05/12/22 - Added RTX3060 (8GB)
12/12/22 - Added RX7900XTX/RX7900XT
29/12/22 - Added missing shop link for non-XT 6700 and GT710, added spaces to RX 7900XTX and RX 7900XT names
04/01/23 - Added 4070Ti - shop link yet to be added as don't think group exists yet
05/01/23 - 4070Ti shop link added
16/01/23 - Tweaked 4070Ti position
11/04/23 - Tweaked 6750XT position
12/04/23 - 4070 Added, 4070Ti position tweaked, Suggested Resolutions updated to account for more demanding games
24/05/23 - 4060Ti Added, Intel Arc A750 and A770 positions Tweaked, RX 7600 Added
25/05/23 - Added RX7600 shop link, removed a few defunct NVIDIA shop links
28/06/23 - Added 4060
21/08/23 - Added Ryzen 7000 2CU (Integrated)
06/09/23 - Added 7700XT/7800XT
19/10/23 - Added Intel Arc A580, tweaked positions of Intel A380 (down 1) and A750 (up 1), split Intel into another column
17/01/24 - Added 4070 Super
24/01/24 - Added 4070Ti Super
31/01/24 - Added 4080 Super, removed defunct shop links
27/02/24 - Added 7900 GRE
29/03/24 - Added missing 7600XT
 
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The above table is a rough guide to show how different GPU models stack up from both of the main vendors and between different generation (e.g. is a top end card from a couple of generations ago, still better than a brand new low end card)

It's based on the table from https://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/graphicscardcomparison, (which in itself was based on https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html) but since we've had the forum software updated, I though it better to have our own copy that has been and will continue to be tweaked if people find it useful.

I've removed everything pre Geforce 600 series / Radeon 7xxx series, as even these are both 10 years old at this point, and whilst some of the models still have the raw horsepower to play the latest games, the drivers are not being updated.

In addition I've linked most of the current products to the OcUK store pages

If you've got any suggestions, or even if you've found it useful, please leave a comment or a like :)
 
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Probably safe to say AMD will have a Tier A GPU with the 6950 XT soon :)
You need to add the 6950XT to the top tier. It also apparently beats the 3090Ti in time spy. :o
When will you be adding INTEL gpu's :D
Cards can only be added to the table when they are actually released and independently benchmarked :)

6900XT isn’t considered Tier A worthy?
I’d put the 6900xt in tier A.
Is the 3080 better than/equal to the 6900XT?
Do think the 6900xt should be in tier a tbf but what exactly is the criteria of tier a?

I used the LogicalIncrements table as a starting point and they'd ranked the 6900XT in a 2nd tier.

Personally I think Tier A should be the absolute top "elite" tier products that will generally be fastest overall and supporting all "cutting edge" technologies i.e. Including have good Ray tracing performance

Woohoo! my 780Ti hits the minimum specs.
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VRAM aside it's still a capable card in terms of raw horsepower - it may just need texture detail and a couple of other settings lowering to maintain a 60fps framerate at 1080P. I certainly wouldn't want to spend the kind of money that a 1650 or 6500XT commands for negligible improvements.

Rtx 3070 needs demoting. No way that's playing anything other than minesweeper at 4k 60fps. Runs out of vram at 4k all the time too.
It's still a very capable 1440p/144fps cad though, and in non-vram limited scenarios (i.e. lower a couple of settings), noticeably quicker than anything in the tier below. VRAM alone shouldn't be a deciding factor.

The b in general is over crowded. A 6800 isnt really near a 6800xt or 6900xt either.
Probably fair - Happy to move the 6800 down if other people agree

Also a 12gb 3080 is basically same performance as a 3080ti and the 3090 and 3090ti are the only cards that support sli. So they should really be in a tier of there own, not with the 3080ti.
SLI is irrelevant these days - I'd even argue that the GTX690 / Radeon 7990 should be rated lower, as in terms of reliable performance, most of the time they'd be using a single GPU and perform lower.

Then splitting the 7970 and 7970ghz between 2 different tiers seems silly.
There's actually a decent performance uplift between the two when talking about the "stock" versions of both cards - something like 15%, so I'd stand by their slightly different positions
 
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I think you're being a little unfair on the 6900XT it's an absolute beast in normal rasterization but it's your table. :)

Nah it's not my table (I don't even own anything better than Tier L :D)

I'd hope it's "Our" Table, and it's main use really is to help show rough relative performance to assist people with upgrades and the like.

I certainly don't want it to turn into bickering, especially over topics such as VRAM :D, but open to sensible discussion, and happy to adjust positions of cards if the majority agree
 
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6900 XT in the same tier as the 3070, let alone Ti? Oh boy, is this thread sponsored by Userbenchmark?
Nope, I've made it perfectly clear that the starting point was the table that logical increments used.

I've not heard anything convincing though that would make me think 6900XT should be a top tier card?
The only arguments so far have relied on how irrelevant Raytracing is, despite the elite tier clearly being aimed at those who absolutely want the best, and can support all of the latest cutting edge tech.

If I had to recommend a money no object PC to someone, would I pick a 6900XT knowing that it underperforms in ray tracing?



Maybe there actually needs to be a tier inserted under A, the 6900XT/6800XT moved up to that, and the 3080Ti moved down to that? Leaving the 3090Ti/3090 as elite tier (presumably with the 6950 if it arrives?), and the 6800 left matching up against 3080, 3070Ti and 3070?

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I've done it anyway - added a Tier and moved the 6900XT/6800XT/3080Ti/3080
 
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@Armageus Great idea to have a simple table to aid customers in selecting a GPU. I suggest you add two columns for AMD, rasterisation and raytracing, as at the moment it is very misleading for new customers looking to buy a new GPU for up to date gaming, an area where the 6900X does appear to be more on par with a 3070.

I did think about adding * disclaimers next to certain cards and having them appear in e.g. for Raytraced vs Rasterised performance, but it's a slippery slope that I don't want to go down. (Otherwise we end up with columns to specifically benefit low vram cards, cards that are specifically good at certain settings, or certain games etc.)

This should be an "at a glance" table to give a rough idea as to how different models/generations stack up overall. I think the additional tier for the 6090XT was a fair compromise - it implies that it's generally faster than the 3070ti/3070/2080ti etc, a good match compared to the 3080Ti/3080 but perhaps not quite as good overall as the 3090Ti/3090.
 
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Also would be nice to fill out those lower tiers with older GPU's.

Nope - everything pre- Geforce 6xx / Radeon 7xxx series is too old to be useful (lack of VRAM and driver updates, even for the odd cards that still have comparable "brute force") and just ends up as clutter.

(It may be that I draft up a "retro" table at some point, as I hate to see information lost, and at some point even the older generations in this table will need to be pruned).


I think the top tier should be classed as 'S' tier like how a lot of hi-fi gear/headphones are ranked, currently having the likes of 3080ti's classed as 'B' tier doesn't make much sense, the 3090/3090ti really are more specialised offerings that rank above 'A', this would realign all the cards into a better ranking imo, 'A' tier 3080/ti, 'B' tier 3070/ti, 'C' tier 3060/ti etc.

S tier is popular not just in the audiophile world and shows up a ton on any given grading list, i'm surprised its not used here.For me S stands for special but it could be for superb, super etc.I can only think of "awesome" for the A tier and for E & F, well thats pretty obvious.

isn't S tier a thing from japanese RPGs and SR is the highest?

I'd still keep the letters as they are, otherwise you could end up with all sorts of things. As an example, guitar top woods can be rated as AAAAA flamed maple which is ridiculous.

With tech that moves as fast and regularly as Gpus, there's going to be constant movement too.
I think the current tier system is as easy and straightforward as you can get
 
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The 6900XT needs bumping up.

The forum timespy benchmark thread gives plenty of evidence.
Nope it doesn't

If you want the absolute best performance including in ray tracing you buy a 3090 or 3090ti.
The 6950XT isn't quite there in RT but isn't far off, whilst trading blows and often winning in everything none RT.
These are the absolute best - the elite tier

The 6900xt is a little bit of step down, but still a great card :)
 
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