GPU panic selling?

[Deleted member 66701]

Hmm, I must be going mad - I'm looking ate a gigabyte 6900 xt waterforce for 1589 and thinking that's reasonable. Almost pulled the trigger.

 

[-Ad-]

Just exposing the system, that ocuk should just offer the cards to all members, secluding

Exposing the system? This isn't some great exposure of an underground European human trafficing ring.

OcUK are running their business and offering something to their community members, but yet the whiners come on here and suggest demand they change the system to benefit said new members because 'I'm a self entitled child who demands a GPU'.

If you want to offer cards to all members, then start up your own shop and forum rather than demanding OcUK should follow your will!

 

[gpuerrilla]

Some of these complainers wont buy a card anyway as its too expensive for them. So they are demanding entitlement and want 30% cheaper. You cannot win if your in the position of OcUK.

What we have deconstructed though is massive levels of complaining, mostly for the sake of complaining. Like old grandads with nothing better to do.

 

[gpuerrilla]

The retailers have moved down slightly. I signed up to a promotion a few weeks back and they mailed me yesterday offering a chance to get a 3060Ti for £699. I imagine the next bout of stock the same card should be less but will wait and see for the flood of miner cards that should be tsunami-ing the markets..

 

[Dogeared]

The retailers have moved down slightly. I signed up to a promotion a few weeks back and they mailed me yesterday offering a chance to get a 3060Ti for £699. I imagine the next bout of stock the same card should be less but will wait and see for the flood of miner cards that should be tsunami-ing the markets..

Yeah those used cards are starting to appear now - there's 3070's around for the £700+ mark. But no thanks, why would I want a card that's been abused like a Mumbai taxi?

The market is going to change significantly over the next few months

 

[gpuerrilla]

But but.. the gamers!!!

 

[Purgatory]

But but.. the gamers!!!

The gamers are as bad as the miners really... Look at how many cards some have, or they keep buying different cards or slowly upgrading to the next one up, this gen cards I mean.. Some have gone threw 4 cards and more now.

Even todays FE drop and previous drops (even the OCUK voucher thing was abused).. many already had a card new gen but buying another to replace it. The whole market has gone nuts. The full blame is not on just the miners, also it was said only 25% of all AIB cards ended at miners, so where are the rest ? Scalpers and gamers collecting cards to play upgrade.

Also my view on mining is, if you game and use the card for gaming and mine when not gaming well thats fine. BUT people buying up cards to build rigs for it is just stupid to me.. I don't mine and never will, but don't have a problem with people that purchased their gpus either for work or gaming to mining on them when idle... It's the people building rigs of many cards just to mine that really need to be shot and best way to shoot them is when it crashes as it always does don't buy the second hand cards then sold by them.. Also remember the cards were run 24/7 and you don't know the conditions they ran them in and no warranty.. but they will sell them as I upgraded blaa blaa and I can't be bothered to game anymore, every excuse you see then is a red flag for you to avoid it no matter what the price is.

 

[G J]

Prices seem to dipped a little on the bay going by the sold price but theres still some sales that are high but I'd say theres a decline of people willing to spend way over the normal.

Members Market here and facebook market place has got a lot more busy the last couple of weeks with cards for sale and it seems theres never been a better time for people to offload their broken cards for what some of them have sold for.

 

[4k4uNuNu]

People actually believe it when others say they are buying another 30 series card for their little Timmy, who desperately needs to play ray traced minecraft. Or for their best mate Bazza who is such a good friend there will be absolutely no mark up on the exchange whatsoever.

Unless you are buying one card for the intended purpose of graphics reproduction, then you are part of the problem. Simple.

 

[gpuerrilla]

The term 'gamer' is far and widely abused these days. Peripherals and components is shocking. Gaming chair, gaming keyboard, gaming ballsac.

Real gamers are playing games not posting on the forum (arguing). I really don't buy into the issue nine months on now, people that were already desperate bought scalped otherwise these scalpers would be crying rivers. What you are left with is complainers that may or may not be calling themselves a gamer. For the best part of two months there has been retailers with GPU's in stock (not nvidia but plenty of AMD cards). The issue with them is they are overpriced. So this switches over from being a lack of supply to pricing issue. I agree they are overpriced, but you dont have to buy one.

If enough people weren't buying them then the retailers panic and start offering 'deals' and cutting the price.

You also get a strange cohort of person that cries they cant obtain a GPU yet in the same breath turn down a card as it might have been mined with. So this person wants a brand new GPU, for RRP and until they get that, will complain like a madman possessed. We are months away from that luxury I'm afraid. Bottom line is if you are desperate to play games as your a 'gamer' you have to go to extreme measures to get what you want. I would say most gamers on these forums have a GPU by now, it was a different story around Christmas time.

 

[Purgatory]

The term 'gamer' is far and widely abused these days. Peripherals and components is shocking. Gaming chair, gaming keyboard, gaming ballsac.

Real gamers are playing games not posting on the forum (arguing). I really don't buy into the issue nine months on now, people that were already desperate bought scalped otherwise these scalpers would be crying rivers. What you are left with is complainers that may or may not be calling themselves a gamer. For the best part of two months there has been retailers with GPU's in stock (not nvidia but plenty of AMD cards). The issue with them is they are overpriced. So this switches over from being a lack of supply to pricing issue. I agree they are overpriced, but you dont have to buy one.

If enough people weren't buying them then the retailers panic and start offering 'deals' and cutting the price.

You also get a strange cohort of person that cries they cant obtain a GPU yet in the same breath turn down a card as it might have been mined with. So this person wants a brand new GPU, for RRP and until they get that, will complain like a madman possessed. We are months away from that luxury I'm afraid. Bottom line is if you are desperate to play games as your a 'gamer' you have to go to extreme measures to get what you want. I would say most gamers on these forums have a GPU by now, it was a different story around Christmas time.

I agree with a lot of that.. there are many on here just trolling and would never have purchased the card they say they are after and some are just trying to bump their post counts and causing arguments just so they can reply back and forth or random topics or replies or questions that don't even make sense.

Good example go read Sarge2255 posts from day one .. and then he jumps from owners threads that clearly are not aimed at him as he's not an owner of said card or really going to buy one... I am shocked he has not been banned on here yet and many like him now. It is destroying the forums now this behaviour, it's nothing more than trolling and increasing post counts hoping they get on the MM or the voucher deals.. but wait if you go read Sarge2255's posts he owns a 3080, 2 different 6000 cards but one was sent back because ocuk sent him a broken card or some rubbish, said the 3090 is a waste of money and everyone that got one was basically a fool, then he's asking about sli 3090s lol.. He's a troll and owns nothing and has not once shown proof he owns any gpu and just trying to up his post count to get on the member deals and market... This sort of person needs banning from here and he has not once been helpful to anyone that asked for help, he just spammed their thread with generic replies and bad advice, again to up his post count and make it look like a reply.

You must have seen me have a go at the general people complaining no cards available too, then I replied well you clearly are not looking hard enough and they reply they find nothing while I open a few retailer pages and see many cards there that they wanted, even after letting them know to go look right, they still play they can't find them, even a simple google with the card model and name and clicking shopping shows them. They are just lazy or never were going to buy a card really.

I could buy every new gen card many times over even in last 3 months, but you need to pay the going rate or wait for the FE drops and many times again the FE drops I managed to add to basket to check if stock was really there and then did the heads up .. FE available... but we know the outcome..even gave them the discord links to where I am getting drops and others gave them telegram, twitter etc etc ...but again..they come back complaining they never saw the buy button and I'm not even trying for a card since last year I got what what I wanted and still try help others that are searching but even getting tired of that as they always complain there was no buy button or they got declined after explaining many times make sure your details match the payment card used or even after getting an FE card they wanted they sell it later and complain no card again.. Honestly some are something special and a total waste of time, but happy to say I did help many get a card they were after.. but the ones now at it for almost 9 months really need to wake up and ones that purchased one and sold it on for profit ... well tough..your problem now go by an AIB card at the market rate from another retailer.

 

[Haggisman]

There can't be that much panic selling going on, my GPU is now out of stock at the trade-in place, so clearly people are still buying at 2x MSRP!

Believe it or not, it goes down as well as up. People have been absolutely wrecked "buying the dip". Multiple people who invested their life savings on the advice of people like you, only to see their "investment" lose 50% of value because they bought at the ATH.

That's not specific to crypto. Anyone investing more than they can afford to lose on anything is an idiot, be that crypto, stocks, gold, spices, silks etc. or even GPUs.

 

[FoxEye]

Real gamers are playing games not posting on the forum (arguing). I really don't buy into the issue nine months on now, people that were already desperate bought scalped otherwise these scalpers would be crying rivers. What you are left with is complainers that may or may not be calling themselves a gamer. For the best part of two months there has been retailers with GPU's in stock (not nvidia but plenty of AMD cards). The issue with them is they are overpriced. So this switches over from being a lack of supply to pricing issue. I agree they are overpriced, but you dont have to buy one.

Congratulations on contradicting yourself in the space of a single paragraph.

"Gamers have had 9 months to buy a card at scalped prices. The people who don't yet have one are the complainers who probably aren't real gamers."

"I agree they are overpriced but you don't have to buy one."

So mashing that astounding logic together, if you didn't buy an overpriced GPU before today you aren't a gamer. And a real gamer pays the scalped prices rather than wait 9 months.

And people who stick to their budget/principles are just "complainers" rather than people who stick to their budget or principles. Like not buying from scalpers, which is a principle for many of us.

 

[cadmunkey]

Yeah those used cards are starting to appear now - there's 3070's around for the £700+ mark. But no thanks, why would I want a card that's been abused like a Mumbai taxi?

How will you be able to tell? Even plenty of gamers are mining on their cards during their PC's downtime. You've no way of knowing, apart from buying brand new.

 

[FoxEye]

That's not specific to crypto. Anyone investing more than they can afford to lose on anything is an idiot, be that crypto, stocks, gold, spices, silks etc. or even GPUs.

Indeed that is very true, but what is not common to all is this concept of "hodling". That you hold on to your crypto and ride out the dips, in the complete certainty that it's going to $100k next year. That no amount of loss is too much, because if you just hodl some more, you'll be a winner eventually.

Also the insane volatility, the massive movements a single Musk tweet can bring, and the sheer number of "pump and dump" schemes going on (as well as exit scams).

 

[gpuerrilla]

Congratulations on contradicting yourself in the space of a single paragraph.

"Gamers have had 9 months to buy a card at scalped prices. The people who don't yet have one are the complainers who probably aren't real gamers."

"I agree they are overpriced but you don't have to buy one."

So mashing that astounding logic together, if you didn't buy an overpriced GPU before today you aren't a gamer. And a real gamer pays the scalped prices rather than wait 9 months.

And people who stick to their budget/principles are just "complainers" rather than people who stick to their budget or principles. Like not buying from scalpers, which is a principle for many of us.

You need to grow up a bit and stop the whining. 9 months of FE drops which are not scalped and the OcUK deals are hardly a rip-off. Completely cherry picking your arguments. I can see why @Psycho Sonny says what he says now. I say what I do because its true.

You are one of the small minority 'sticking to my principles' yet sound off here with a massive chip on your shoulder. What a guy!

I could buy every new gen card many times over even in last 3 months, but you need to pay the going rate or wait for the FE drops and many times again the FE drops I managed to add to basket to check if stock was really there and then did the heads up .. FE available... but we know the outcome..even gave them the discord links to where I am getting drops and others gave them telegram, twitter etc etc ...but again..they come back complaining they never saw the buy button and I'm not even trying for a card since last year I got what what I wanted and still try help others that are searching but even getting tired of that as they always complain there was no buy button or they got declined after explaining many times make sure your details match the payment card used or even after getting an FE card they wanted they sell it later and complain no card again.. Honestly some are something special and a total waste of time, but happy to say I did help many get a card they were after.. but the ones now at it for almost 9 months really need to wake up and ones that purchased one and sold it on for profit ... well tough..your problem now go by an AIB card at the market rate from another retailer.

Apparently @FoxEye doesnt see these or he wont buy them anyway, so I dont know what his beef is.

 

[Haggisman]

How will you be able to tell? Even plenty of gamers are mining on their cards during their PC's downtime. You've no way of knowing, apart from buying brand new.

I guess the other question is, would you rather have a card that's been mined on 24/7, but undervolted and running relatively cool, or one which has been overclocked within an inch of it's life and run at a much higher temperature with constant heating & cooling cycles? I guess the fans on the mined GPU may have more wear, but higher maximum and constant temperature changes are terrible for electronics!

My 6800 runs at ~60c when mining, but frequently hits 85c+ during gaming sessions...

 

[Psycho Sonny]

It's the same with the console crowd who say I'll wait 3 years and buy the slim for £100 less.

Over those 3 years you surely would have gotten more than £100 worth of enjoyment out of it.

Pointless waiting for minor savings. I buy at launch. Use for 3 years then sell and buy the slim and the upgrade costs me like £20 as well usually.

 

[Joxeon]

It's the same with the console crowd who say I'll wait 3 years and buy the slim for £100 less.

Over those 3 years you surely would have gotten more than £100 worth of enjoyment out of it.

Pointless waiting for minor savings. I buy at launch. Use for 3 years then sell and buy the slim and the upgrade costs me like £20 as well usually.

would have thought you'd be more of a pro guy

 

[FoxEye]

Completely this, a true armchair warrior at its finest. Probably wouldn't have the solids to say anything to someone's face IRL.

I have no time for miners and scalpers, and I don't mind telling them that. Quite happy to say that to your face, whoever you are.

 

[gpuerrilla]

@Psycho Sonny if you get a PS5 give me a shout mate I dont mind spending £50 extra to see old foxy have a conniption!