Depends, if he's happy with Xbone 4K performance he would have been more than happy with GTX980ti/970 levels of 4K performance.
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Yeah, i dont know 30 fps, medium settings 75% render scale you might be able to match a xbox1x with a 970 and definitely with a 980ti when it comes to "4k*"
What consoles, (even the xbox1x which is hands down the closest to getting it right) call 4k varies so much from game to game and is nowhere near the ideal 4k experience that everyone seems to be hunting for, 100% scaling all the time, 60fps+, high settings. It seems silly to call a mid range pc out for not hitting the magic numbers then recommending a console that isnt a whole lot better.
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When you have no competition and then weak competition, you are going to charge as much as you can get away with. Then again any business will always charge as much as they can get away with. Those Vega post retailer rebates where "good value" where they not
Finally completed my upgrade, no option but to go second hand but a 980 Ti should be a decent upgrade from a 290 (what a card!) and last a few more years at 1440p 
Edit - damn this is my first nVidia card since the Geforce 2
Edit - damn this is my first nVidia card since the Geforce 2
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When you have no competition and then weak competition, you are going to charge as much as you can get away with. Then again any business will always charge as much as they can get away with. Those Vega post retailer rebates where "good value" where they not
This was my point in replying to the post below, the prices are only going to go up because NVidia can get away with doing it and raking in fat profit margins.
NVidia are doing what IBM used to do and got fat and lazy in the process, look what happened to IBM.
I paid £320 for my Zotec 980ti in August 2016
It is currently at least £350 second hand on that auction site.....
Wonder how much this 1080 will be worth by October, maybe I can get my money back.
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Well they have lowered there prices when forced to Thinking back to the GTX 280 and GTX 480 days when they priced high but competition was strong so they had to drop them
And that's why Nvidia has its Cheatworks alias GameWorks and proprietary G-Sync.
IBM PC was open standard which allowed others to instantly pick up the slack in price and performance development.
Even if AMD returns to top in say year (or Intel brings out something) lots of people have bought that G-Sync ball and chain.
And those making the buying decisions were open minded.
Even when AMD had completely superior architecture in Evergreen vs Fermi lots of people disregarded it because it wasn't Nvidia's.
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AMD have done something similar. They've trapped GPU buyers into FreeSync then realeased a load of fairly uncompetitive gaming GPU's. Many more might have switched to Nvidia if it wasn't for being trapped. At least NVidia release GPU's worthy of keeping to G-sync. G-sync monitors might cost more but it's worth it - at least it exposes you to the fantastically performing Nvidia GPU ecosystem.
Lets hope AMD make some good GPU steps forward. Their CPU's are now pretty good
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the prices are crazy....soon will be out of reach to build a pc for normal people.In my case what will be a decent upgrade from a 7950 gigabyte?
Yes, they certainly are.
Are you running a FreeSync screen and want to stay with team red? Also, give that CPU an overclock if you haven't already.
I would have thought a reasonable upgrade would be attainable with something like an RX 570 or above.
Alternatively, if you're very fortunate and find a good second-hand deal (good luck with that), then consider the RX 470/80, R9 290/X, R9 390/X, GTX 970/980 or above ranges of cards.
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I reckon the this is the death of smart upgrades. Its going to be that you upgrade the entire machine overall and in that way you get a decent price on the graphics card because the firm selling is willing to be competitive if you agree to do it all at once. Then you will have the job of selling off your old machine either as a whole or splitting it up.
Or to put it another way, the 7950 upgrade path might be via integrated GPU. I cant remember if they have got it past 1050 performance levels
Or to put it another way, the 7950 upgrade path might be via integrated GPU. I cant remember if they have got it past 1050 performance levels
IBM were doing ok until they tried to force the PS2 and MCA onto people, this was not an open system and expensive as well for other manufacturers to use.
In the end IBMs rivals came up with a cheaper system of their own and soon IBM and their PS2/MCA systems were history in the PC market place.
just get a 970gtx for about £100 2nd hand.2x as fast as a 7950 still plays everything at 1080 pretty good.about same as a 1060 rip off.
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I still got magazines from around that time. IBM was never cheap, it wasnt that they failed exactly just this was their thing and they were undermined by open competition which they never intended. Price of a small car like the Micra and an IBM laptop were about the same at that time