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Graphics Design PC £2k Budget

Discussion in 'OcUK Full Systems & Bundles' started by lennshow66, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. lennshow66

    Gangster

    Joined: Aug 17, 2010

    Posts: 179

    Hi All,

    I am after a high-performance graphics design PC including a monitor, keyboard and mouse for a budget of £2000. I do not require the OS.

    I would like the monitor to reproduce colours well as there will be a lot of work on this machine using the Adobe Suite.

    I am after the best bang for my buck here so am fine with either Intel or AMD I also have no problem building this PC myself.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
  2. mickyflinn

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 23, 2011

    Posts: 6,140

    Location: West Side

    Come on guys someone help i dont know enough about graphic design or i would spec something.
     
  3. Danny75

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    Joined: Aug 26, 2013

    Posts: 4,630

    I only dabble with Sketchup now and then. But now and then I spend hours reading up on recommendations for things like Premiere Pro, watch demonstration, benchmarking vids and the like. Adobe apps generally like more cores (vice versa something like AutoCad prefers a few fast cores). Today, that means a 1600/1600X processor minimum. 16GB 3000MHz DDR4 RAM minimum. And one SSD and a HDD. Consider back-up, if you don't have any then add a second HDD or external. Then PSU, motherboard (some features on the board may be nice for future upgrades, like dual or triple M.2 slots, with the fastest bandwidth, not always possible when working with a budget), and for that budget aim for a GPU like the GTX 1060 6GB, because some GPUs already have 11GB, so going into the future programs are likely to make use of a lot of video memory.

    But before really going to town on all that, you could have a think about the monitor you'd like/need. Because you can make it the focus/priority of your build, once you have the minimum covered for the rest. Or if you aren't too fussed, then you can spend more of the budget on a faster processor, more RAM, and a second SSD (i.e. a scratch disk) for all the stuff like Adobe cache files, cache database, captured av, previews, media, project, cc library. It is better if you use the fastest SSD as the scratch disk. A regular SSD will be fine for OS/programs, and a regular one would be fine for all the rest too, but if you can afford a second faster one, then even better.

    So as far as monitor, what do you need... 4K or less? Prefer Ultrawide or 16:10/16:9? Try and find a monitor that would work for you (preferably IPS unless you have a taste for VA, safe to say TN should be avoided for this purpose, refresh rate won't matter - 60Hz fine), and then see if the rest of the budget can make for a good system. Your input here is vital, as some might prefer a 1080p IPS monitor and the fastest system possible. Whereas others will want a better screen.

    What storage size do you require for your work? This will have an impact on which SSD/s and HDD/s. SSD size is not something you want to overdo, as it can really cut into the budget, so if 500GB total SSD space (whether single SSD or 2 x 250GB) is enough, great. Then a 1/2/3/whatever TB HDD. Remember you can add more drives as time goes by, as long as the motherboard and the case can handle them, so you could perhaps think well I'll be fine with this storage amount for at least a year, so any extra in the budget can go towards other things right now.

    TL; DR = please give us some input on the monitor and storage requirements.
     
  4. lennshow66

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    Joined: Aug 17, 2010

    Posts: 179

    This PC will run in a active directory domain environment for someone to use in our marketing department for work on photographs and design work. We have had complaints surrounding colours on screen not ringing true with the printer etc, so the screen is very important, ultrawide would be nice but not essential, resolution 1440p+ . Marketing are trying to push for a Mac but ideally we want to stay away from this if possible. SSD is important for the boot drive, storage of the files will be network based so there are no real requirements for local storage.

    Thanks for your help so far!
     
  5. terley

    Hitman

    Joined: Feb 3, 2010

    Posts: 941

    Location: Southport/NW England

    My brother has been a professional graphic designer for 12+ years.. Anything would suit as long as it can run the software effectively.. £2k is massive overkill for such a PC.

    The majority of the cost will go towards a monitor with accurate colouring, but even then you are more likely to be using already defined colour codes, palettes and branding.
     
  6. Danny75

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    Had a look at monitors. There's a 32" Asus PA328Q 3840x2160 IPS 10-Bit* 99.5% Adobe RGB professionally calibrated monitor. That would provide plenty of real estate, including vertical (something the Ultrawide 1440p's don't so much). https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Monitors/PA328Q/

    OcUK doesn't stock it. It's available for £1000+ from most places but one place is having a clearance for £800. Seems tempting, spec-wise. You could have a look for actual feedback on the monitor, see if there any known issues etc.

    * 10-Bit colour won't be available in Adobe with a GTX 1060 though, only with Quadro workstation cards I believe. The trouble with Quadro is that you lose performance in most everything else just to get 10-bit, if you pay the same price for a budget Quadro as for a GTX 1060, that is. So it's a catch-22.

    That would leave around £1200 for a system.

    My basket at Overclockers UK:

    Total: £1,199.19
    (includes shipping: £12.30)


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    How's this looking? No keyboard/mouse yet, and the red led RAM is only because it's the cheapest 32GB 3000MHz kit (case has no windows anyway). PSU ought to be reliable. Seasonic and ten-year warranty.

    Always difficult to tell how much the video card will be made use of. However, some programs do, and more programs are incorporating making use of that power as time goes by. I think it would be a pity to drop 32GB RAM to 16GB RAM, to get a keyboard and mouse in. I'd probably swap video card for a GTX 1060 3GB model, if needed.

    If you did decide to go for 10-bit capability, then I'd look at the P1000 as minimum:

    My basket at Overclockers UK:

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    Last edited: Aug 18, 2017 at 8:30 AM
  7. lennshow66

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    Joined: Aug 17, 2010

    Posts: 179

    The only reason we have 2k is that's what marketing want to spend on a Mac and we'd ideally like stay Windows.

    That monitor looks exactly what we're after, many thanks for that suggestion.

    In terms of the GTX 1060 vs Quadro i'll have a look into both but 10bit colour probably isn't required.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  8. Danny75

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    Posts: 4,630

    You're welcome.
     


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