Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16th-19th Oct 2020]

What the hell did Chelsea's scouts see to get them to spend that much money on Kepa?

Surely they were looking at a different player
 
Var is basically a moot point and doesn't change anything regards to offsides. Sometimes you got an offside goal and sometimes you didn't. Now it is basically the same but just depends on what the VAR ref thinks is or isn't offside.

In todays modern world it should be easy to have sensors woven into players clothes/boots that can easily detect when a ball is kicked if a player is offside. It needs to be computerised in some way. Similar to hawkeye as no one argues with that when it is switched on at least.
 
How does the system currently work? From what I've read/remember, it's three officials in a room with one being the senior official who makes the final decision. If so, can't they put them in separate rooms and ask them all to make a decision and you go with the majority decision?
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
How does the system currently work? From what I've read/remember, it's three officials in a room with one being the senior official who makes the final decision. If so, can't they put them in separate rooms and ask them all to make a decision and you go with the majority decision?
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it is still basically no different to offside before with a "live" ref. Just a matter of opinion. Heads need banging together and it needs to be computerised. The amount of money in todays game it should take five minutes.

Then again VAR has been in cricket for what 20-30 years so football is always lagging behind :P
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
How does the system currently work? From what I've read/remember, it's three officials in a room with one being the senior official who makes the final decision. If so, can't they put them in separate rooms and ask them all to make a decision and you go with the majority decision?
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If we're talking about offsides then it's simply a case of the VAR official plotting the points of the furthest forward part of the attacker and defender, that can play the ball, and then the computer does the rest.

In terms of subjective decision making. IINM there are 2 var officials in the room however there is only one decision maker. The 2nd or more junior person is there to simply flag up possible issues that need checking. It does make you wonder how none of the onfield officials and two VAR officials didn't think to check whether the Pickford challenge was a red.
 
PikeyPriest said:
It doesn’t work like that. It is to do with the order of fouls. Otherwise, any time a defender fouled a player through on goal it would be a straight red. Now if the player was offside, but the flag hadn’t gone up yet, they should get a straight red because the flag hadn’t gone up fast enough??

The laws to punish Pickford already exist. A serious/dangerous tackle or foul can be punished at any point regardless of whistles, flags or VAR. This is what should have been used to send Pickford off, there doesn’t need to be any other change to the rules.
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Aye. I agree. Still, if the ball is dead, it really has to be violent conduct. There's no doubt that is should have been a red either way. It's still excessive.
 
Just apply a little common sense, use the model in rugby.

On field referee makes their call. If video ref spots something, they inform the ref it's being review (all on broadcast audio, so fans know what is going on).

In order for the video ref to overrule the decision of the on-field referee, it has to be a clear and obvious infringement.

I believe the on-field referee has the final decision either way, but not 100% sure.

Either way, the video ref effectively stops absolute clangers from getting missed, without making every score a painstakingly anal review of drawn over lines and miniscule differences.

Oh and having video refs with a brain and two eyes helps.
 
mid_gen said:
In order for the video ref to overrule the decision of the on-field referee, it has to be a clear and obvious infringement.

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That’s a few years old now, I don’t think the TMO overrules the on field Ref anymore, he shows him the angles he sees on the big screen and the onfield Ref then makes the decision
 
kinetic747 said:
So an obvious red is ignored by VAR and then a goal is disallowed for reasons unknown. I thought it was supposed to reduce the margin of error? :confused:
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Was a **** show. There's no reason why Pickford shouldn't have been sent off other than no-one saw it. It's arguable that Van Dyke wasn't offside as well. And the Henderson goal. Well that is a true mystery. Mane is plainly onside.
 
woppy101 said:
That’s a few years old now, I don’t think the TMO overrules the on field Ref anymore, he shows him the angles he sees on the big screen and the onfield Ref then makes the decision
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I'm pretty sure clear and obvious is a criteria for some decisions at the moment?

I think forward passes have to be clear and obvious for it to be called back, precisely to avoid this situation where completely inconsequential millimeter differences are agonised over to potentially decide games, which obviously nonsense.
 
inogen said:
Was a **** show. There's no reason why Pickford shouldn't have been sent off other than no-one saw it. It's arguable that Van Dyke wasn't offside as well. And the Henderson goal. Well that is a true mystery. Mane is plainly onside.
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They did see it and didnt deem it worthy of going to the pitch side monitor according to Gallagher. Appauling decision.
 
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