I think you've taken Pigeon's post a little too seriously. Obviously I'm sure he does want to see Liverpool win the League with 15 matches remaining but it was meant as a light hearted joke
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If we win our game in hand and beat Liverpool we will be 6 points clear of them. It is going to be a crazy season. Its been 7 years since we have been anywhere near the top and it is crazy.
League is anyone's apart from Frank Lampard.
If we win tonight we will got top by three points (until City win their 2 games in hand).
Can't quite believe it honestly. There is zero chance that we will win the league this season but at least we are looking like having an exciting season with 5-6 teams all battling for the top spots.
Can't quite believe it honestly. There is zero chance that we will win the league this season but at least we are looking like having an exciting season with 5-6 teams all battling for the top spots.
The ref making poor calls at the minute are keeping this league tighter then it should be. We were poor but that ref last night was absolutely dire. United got the softest penalty ive seen at the weekend which gifts them 3 points...we have a player grabbed by the goalie, a fella making a save De Gea would be proud of and another foul not given. These are key decisions that need stamping out.
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I still think City are favourites and it was a master stroke by Pep fielding the team he did against Chelsea. Caught them completely off guard and it goes to show that despite having players out with covid they still have massive depth. Saying all of that the Semi Final tomorrow can swing the momentum either way depending on the result.
Ref totally missed the massive elbow to the face by Mings so is swings and roundabouts. It is one thing moaning about the ref but when you have 1 shot on target all game the ref really isn't to blame as you shouldn't be relying on him to win or draw a game.
Refs always make poor calls. Players should be sent off who aren't, a dive leads to a goal from the free kick, some pushing and pulling in the box isn't seen. There have been plenty of games this season where we haven't had the rub of the green with the refs but we have won them in spite of that. Thats what good teams do and thats what Liverpool were doing last season. You don't care about refs when you are beating teams. Apparently Liverpool have had 5 shots on target in the last 270 minutes of football. Thats not the refs fault.
All the little decisions in games effect the outcome not just the big ones.
On the top of my head we have had 4 very poor decisions go against us which would have turned the game around completely. Thats 9 points we have missed out on. United have been called back from the bloody dressing room yet they cant get the ref to go to the screen? Weve seen decisions take minutes to come to a conclusion with lines drawn all over the place yet last night the official didnt even need to replay it. Instantly turned down.
We have been poor...no doubt about it but when a goalkeeper has two arms around a players leg and it isnt a penalty or when Salah has arms around his neck and somehow hes commited a foul it needs highlighting. Walcott steam into Milner last night, off the ground and two footed. Wasnt even given as a foul.
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Walcott tackle. Lol
You literally relied on the ref in the last game you played lmao. Im not saying we werent poor...we were but the officiating last night was comical.
You can't say that a game would have been completely different in your favour if a couple of decisions had gone your way. I would wager that a couple could have gone against you as well but we don't remember those ones do we. Its been a weird season. Would we have been smashed by Spurs if Martial wasn't sent off with the score at 2-1? Probably, but I could make a case that it changed the game entirely. Perhaps Martial would have scored a few goals. Perhaps having the extra man would have somehow fixed our suicidal defending (it wouldn't).
My general point is that you only look at those decisions in this way because you are not creating anything else in the game. When Liverpool start performing again you will forget about those things because they won't matter. Then we can all go back to asking if Salah is diving to get his penalties
You were crap and you are blaming the ref. Typical fan response TBH.
I made the point last night regarding Walcott's challenge, wasn't even awarded a freekick as two footed and late is now considered a fair tackle by the ref and VAR.
Mane was constantly being man handled by Walker-Peters but the ref allowed play on, look at the freekick for Saints goal, slightest of touches by Thiago (admittedly TAA should actually have defended the freekick) and the freekick is awarded but Mane never got a single thing awarded to him all night despite being pulled from pillar to post.
The referee should have his performance evaluated after every game and contentious decisions like that should be explained but the FA will never do that because incompetent refereeing is rewarded and always has been, VAR has made the system even more ridiculous because it was supposed to iron out these inconsistencies but it's just brought in a whole new level of incompetence, we should have the same people behind the VAR cameras all the time so at least that's consistent but no they decide to round robin everyone, the FA really is 'jobs for the boys' even more so than central government.
Football hasn't been enjoyable for a while now (probably since VAR decided it was going to steal the limelight) and with cheating and diving rewarded more than ever I'm gonna have to bow out and stop watching as I find myself getting more and more frustrated, it's like watching the dick at work keep getting promoted because nobody wants to manage him effectively and just move him on.
With the way Liverpool played last night they would never have won anyway but if the referee was consistent to both teams it would have given the fans less to moan about and make them direct their ire towards the lacklustre team performance rather than try and use the referee as a scapegoat.
Mane was constantly being man handled by Walker-Peters but the ref allowed play on, look at the freekick for Saints goal, slightest of touches by Thiago (admittedly TAA should actually have defended the freekick) and the freekick is awarded but Mane never got a single thing awarded to him all night despite being pulled from pillar to post.
The referee should have his performance evaluated after every game and contentious decisions like that should be explained but the FA will never do that because incompetent refereeing is rewarded and always has been, VAR has made the system even more ridiculous because it was supposed to iron out these inconsistencies but it's just brought in a whole new level of incompetence, we should have the same people behind the VAR cameras all the time so at least that's consistent but no they decide to round robin everyone, the FA really is 'jobs for the boys' even more so than central government.
Football hasn't been enjoyable for a while now (probably since VAR decided it was going to steal the limelight) and with cheating and diving rewarded more than ever I'm gonna have to bow out and stop watching as I find myself getting more and more frustrated, it's like watching the dick at work keep getting promoted because nobody wants to manage him effectively and just move him on.
With the way Liverpool played last night they would never have won anyway but if the referee was consistent to both teams it would have given the fans less to moan about and make them direct their ire towards the lacklustre team performance rather than try and use the referee as a scapegoat.
Ive lost count the amount of times ive said we were poor. United were last week as well but they were gifted a penalty. They were literally called out from the dressing room to get a penalty for a handball, ours last night was just brushed over when it was clear as day.
Just be consistent.
Which game was that? The brighton game where all the players were still on the pitch arguing about a very very clear handball. That was 100% the right decision.
Im messing with the changing room, i meant it was after the final whistle. Was it a pen? Yep. No problem with it...thats my problem. Its given then but not last night when it was just as clear and they barely look at it. Never mind the 5 minutes reviewing the decision like has happened before. Pogba gets a penalty from something thats far less then what happened last night on Mane is the other example. the Walcott challenge on Milner is the worst of the lost to be honest...thats a horrible challenge and it wasnt even given as a foul!
Im using Utd as an example as I believe you're a United fan and because you are second. It isnt some attack against them, i reserve that for Arsenal.
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I wouldn't say we were poor we still managed 19 shots with 9 on target. A lot of respect needs to be given to Aston Villa who are a decent team this season. Yes the penalty was a soft one but it is the defenders fault for giving the ref a decision to make in the first place. Especially when 80% of penalties given away are from points where the player would have had zero chance on goal anyway. Mane's penalty shout would have led to nothing. Arguable Pogba would have had a chance on goal with his.
I think the issue is that Mane didn't go down when the contact happened and then went down late and it basically made the ref think it wasn't a foul. This is why its hard to argue against going down at the slightest touch. If you don't you have a high chance of getting nothing. VAR should have said to him to look at the decision but that seems a bit of a grey area unless its something they think the ref hasn't seen at all. I've seen the Walcott challenge and its not quite as bad as some are making out but it could easily have been a red. For some reason they are fantastically inconsistent with dangerous tackles.
I just assumed you were making the point that it was the wrong decision.
This is one of the things I really hate about penalties. As a striker you can literally be in the box, scream "av it!" at you smack it into the nth row but if a defender touches you and you go down you will probably get a penalty.
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Huh, they are in a very safe environment outside of the bellends that seem to be doing their best to catch it by having parties and generally being pricks. There is also something to be said for giving people something to take their mind off the quite frankly **** existence that most of us are living at the moment. All of my hobbies are gone and with them all my social interactions with real people. Along with the awful weather I barely leave the house other than to buy food. I would like football to keep going.