Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [22nd - 24th October 2022]

montymint said:
Yes, the money has helped immensely.

I think there's been a little bit of the message rubbing the wrong way, where we (nufc fans) are being told we're buying the league.

The large investment this year has only been required thanks to the lack of investment in the many years prior. Going forward I doubt we'll spend anywhere near as much per window, then fall into the pattern of spending of other PL teams.

The fans are pointing out that there are a number of players in key roles where are now performing much better under Howe (and we could see that in the stats of last season) than under the previous incompetence, and are trying to acknowledge that the manger is playing a key role.

Give the 200+ mil to Bruce and we'd still be relegation fodder.
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This is what I was getting at earlier. Much more eloquently put, but echos my sentiments exactly.
 
Most peeps were mocking Newcastle signings let's be honest.

Pope 10m, Tripper 12m, Burn 12m, Botman 35m, Targett 14m.

Brand new defence for around the same money clubs spend on one defender.

Recruitment has been outstanding.

Howe has a magic wand. Joelinton and Miggy, Schar are like new players. Even Longstaff is slowly getting back to the sort of form he had under Raffa.
 
Bigpig said:
Most peeps were mocking Newcastle signings let's be honest.

Pope 10m, Tripper 12m, Burn 12m, Botman 35m, Targett 14m.

Brand new defence for around the same money clubs spend on one defender.

Recruitment has been outstanding.

Howe has a magic wand. Joelinton and Miggy, Schar are like new players. Even Longstaff is slowly getting back to the sort of form he had under Raffa.
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£89m for one defender. Yeah, that’s not most clubs lol.
 
When you look at Howe's time at Bournemouth, Newcastle's pragmatism is quite surprising. Bournemouth were a good football side but they were the type of side that all the big boys loved to play because they tried to play football against them and would just get swept away. I'm not intending to upset our Geordie's but Howe's approach at Newcastle has been the polar opposite - Newcastle are far more defensive, look to break up the game and slow it down a lot more, try to play on the counter and play a lot more longer balls. It really is a complete change of approach from Howe.
 
BaZ87 said:
When you look at Howe's time at Bournemouth, Newcastle's pragmatism is quite surprising. Bournemouth were a good football side but they were the type of side that all the big boys loved to play because they tried to play football against them and would just get swept away. I'm not intending to upset our Geordie's but Howe's approach at Newcastle has been the polar opposite - Newcastle are far more defensive, look to break up the game and slow it down a lot more, try to play on the counter and play a lot more longer balls. It really is a complete change of approach from Howe.
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Its very effective though and I think his success is due to a lot more than just tactics. The fact he is getting a tune out of players that looked hopeless under previous managers is one thing but they have a belief and a togetherness they've not had for a decade. Not only that its the fittest Newcastle side I think I have ever seen, they never stop running.
 
Vandle said:
Its very effective though and I think his success is due to a lot more than just tactics. The fact he is getting a tune out of players that looked hopeless under previous managers is one thing but they have a belief and a togetherness they've not had for a decade. Not only that its the fittest Newcastle side I think I have ever seen, they never stop running.
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Yea, not disputing any of that. My point was simply on Howe's style of football at Bournemouth compared to Newcastle.
 
BaZ87 said:
When you look at Howe's time at Bournemouth, Newcastle's pragmatism is quite surprising. Bournemouth were a good football side but they were the type of side that all the big boys loved to play because they tried to play football against them and would just get swept away. I'm not intending to upset our Geordie's but Howe's approach at Newcastle has been the polar opposite - Newcastle are far more defensive, look to break up the game and slow it down a lot more, try to play on the counter and play a lot more longer balls. It really is a complete change of approach from Howe.
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Shipped in 60 odd goals a season.

As mentioned by woopy he knew he had a problem in his game and was man enough to take himself to the continent and learn and fill gaps.

He doesn't play that much longer balls but we are not afraid to work the channels. Wilson excels at this. We were playing out from the back yesterday. Infact it's a good mixture. Bruno and Wilock are brilliant at carrying the ball up the pitch and when Isak fit there be more of that. He also has brilliant pressing stats.

It's quite deceptive. I believe it was the Wolves manager complained about long balls.
But they had double the amount.

I posted a nice video on Howe Newcastle tactics. We are are complete beasts at winning the duel/challenge after applying pressure.

An example of this was yesterday. Forced spurs to lift the ball then in came Longstaff and won the 50/50 and set Miggy off.

It's why Jolinton is vital for us. Only Rice comes close to his stats.

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Mid table for Long balls. Which most start to be played at the tail-end of games when we start to run out of steam. Better bench and the number will start to get lower. There's been a slow progression to Howe ball and is still a work in progress.
 
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It's funny how the long ball is still used as a negative in today's game. Long ball used to be pumping it up to a 6ft 5 striker to head on for his teammates to run through and score. Long balls now are used to switch play and you have keepers/fullbacks/cdms with ridiculous passing ability that can find a man from way out.

I'm assuming Everton being so high is Coady who does have a great long pass on him.
 
As you say, there are long balls and long passes. There was a stat on twitter the other week re teams who go long from their keepers and iinm Newcastle were 2nd to Southampton.
 
BaZ87 said:
As you say, there are long balls and long passes. There was a stat on twitter the other week re teams who go long from their keepers and iinm Newcastle were 2nd to Southampton.
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I remember when Toon bought Pope, or he was getting linked with the bigger clubs, and it was how he would be 'found out' with his lack of distribution, just pumping it long with Burnley must be so easy for a Keeper. Newcastle have kept him doing that but if he isn't good with the ball at his feet don't play out from the back. It's working
 
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