Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [2nd-4th Oct 2020]

The rules of the game are a joke like this team.

Brush of the cheek is red, but a kick with no attempt to get the ball is a yellow. ********.
 
adam cool dude said:
People have short term memories. It has been up and down but under Ole we have played some of the best football since Fergie at certain periods of the past 18 months.

He was given it on the basis of two previous serial winning managers failing.
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Our front 3 is fast and exciting and Fernandes has given us a quality number 10. We have still looked badly coached and entirely reliant on our attackers doing something special.

Lol @ Luke Shaw for that one.
 
Now THAT was a red card, unlike the earlier incident.

Ref evening up maybe.
 
manic111 said:
On what basis? That it's cynical? If that was your team and this was a close game it would be great defending and taking one for the team
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Nope, that should be a long ban too. IF you want to take one for the team pull his shirt back, taking a player out in that fashion should be violent conduct.
 
manic111 said:
On what basis? That it's cynical? If that was your team and this was a close game it would be great defending and taking one for the team
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There's cynically tripping somebody and then there's kicking somebody. Shaw's challenge was the latter and I can remember Rooney getting a red years ago for doing what Shaw done.
 
fez said:
Our front 3 is fast and exciting and Fernandes has given us a quality number 10. We have still looked badly coached and entirely reliant on our attackers doing something special.

Lol @ Luke Shaw for that one.
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Our front three have vastly improved under Ole compared to Jose. This game today is just a culmination of everything that has been happening the past month.
 
Kelt said:
Now THAT was a red card, unlike the earlier incident.

Ref evening up maybe.
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Thats not a red in a million years. Plenty of cover and not dangerous. I mean you could argue that it was denying a clear goal scoring opportunity because lets be honest, our defence has been absent today but beyond that its just a cynical foul.

Whats the difference between that and when a play just holds onto a players shirt and won't let him go.
 
explicit4u said:
Nope, that should be a long ban too. IF you want to take one for the team pull his shirt back, taking a player out in that fashion should be violent conduct.
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But there was no violent intent, he just tripped him over.

Yes, it was deeply cynical and arguably the rules should be amended to make that kind of challenge a red, but under the current rules to me it's smart defending. 15 years ago when the Italians were the best defenders in the world people loved them for that kind of challenge
 
adam cool dude said:
Our front three have vastly improved under Ole compared to Jose. This game today is just a culmination of everything that has been happening the past month.
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Yes, but the rest of your team has gone backwards. Ole seems to have absolutely no concept of controlling a game, he just relies on a good front 4 to dig him out of trouble
 
manic111 said:
But there was no violent intent, he just tripped him over.
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He didn't just trip him though. Had he just tapped his ankles it would have brought him down and then there's no question it's just a yellow. He's instead taken a hack at the back of his legs.
omnomnom said:
Remember when i said Son should have been sent off for what he did to Gomes and no one agreed? Very similar and he should have walked.
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No they weren't similar. Son didn't hack Gomes down.
 
manic111 said:
But there was no violent intent, he just tripped him over.

Yes, it was deeply cynical and arguably the rules should be amended to make that kind of challenge a red, but under the current rules to me it's smart defending. 15 years ago when the Italians were the best defenders in the world people loved them for that kind of challenge
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Cynical fouls are what yellows are for. If there is no intent to injure and its not dangerous you get a yellow. Otherwise whats the difference between that an any tackle that has a really low chance of success.
 
BaZ87 said:
He didn't just trip him though. Had he just tapped his ankles it would have brought him down and then there's no question it's just a yellow. He's instead taken a hack at the back of his legs.

No they weren't similar. Son didn't hack Gomes down.
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Not really, he dived in front of Lucas and Lucas went over him. If he'd gone through his legs then I agree
 
United are lucky there isn't a crowd today, one of the worst performances I've ever seen.

Edit: Shaws foul was tactical and never a red. All players will be coached to do that if their man is past them
 
Don't forget Leicester won the league with maguire and semi decent defenders.

Its called being well drilled and organised. Utd need wholesale changes in the coaching staff from front to back.
 
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