Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [8th - 10th October 2022]

Good game today but we really need to start putting games to bed. Everton were no where really bar the final ten minutes.

This is more a mentality thing though and hopefully gets better as time progresses.
 
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Just watched the Arsenal/Liverpool highlights...

Arsenals first goal was banter level defending. Utterly awful.
Liverpool could easily have had a penalty
VVD needs taking behind a barn. What has happened to him. Just looks like hes coasting 90% of the time.

Arsenal should be best of the rest if they can keep something akin to this level up all season. Playing well and with a lot of confidence. I don't see Chelsea, United or Tottenham having anything but inconsistent seasons and City are just going to walk the league.
 
fez said:
That was a massive handball that looked quite intentional. Rashfords was barely there.
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It will be forgotten next time we get a decision then it will be all "big clubs get all the decisions" again.

Rashford's was by no means a handball except by the way the idiots running the game have come up with. The only way Rashford could have avoided it hitting him is by having no arms. He made no action towards the ball and the handball was caused by the opposition player kicking it into him, who then somehow got rewarded.

I'm just so close to being done with football, it's the most stupidly run sport around and it seems to get worse every season. The refereeing standard has absolutely plummeted now it's being exposed by VAR just how incompetent/corrupt they are.
 
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Shamikebab said:
It will be forgotten next time we get a decision then it will be all "big clubs get all the decisions" again.

Rashford's was by no means a handball except by the way the idiots running the game have come up with. The only way Rashford could have avoided it hitting him is by having no arms. He made no action towards the ball and the handball was caused by the opposition player kicking it into him, who then somehow got rewarded.

I'm just so close to being done with football, it's the most stupidly run sport around and it seems to get worse every season. The refereeing standard has absolutely plummeted now it's being exposed by VAR just how incompetent/corrupt they are.
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That makes two of us.

I havent seen the Rashford handball only a still but im assuming it was disallowed because :

"However, a player will still be penalised if he commits an accidental handball immediately before scoring himself."

Which is fair enough...until someone posts the Antonio video. Officiating at the moment is the worst I've ever seen.
 
Now obviously you don't have to like the rule but there is a reason why Antonio's goal could stand and Rashford's couldn't. First of all you have to remember that attacking handballs don't have to be intentional to be given. When they first introduced the attacking handball rule it covered any handball in the build up to a goal however they've slowly scaled that back and it now only covers the goalscorer handling directly before scoring. Rashford's goal obviously falls into that category where as Antonio's doesn't because he's shot, it's been saved, the defender's attempted a clearance and then the ball has come back to Antonio.

As I said, you don't have to like the rule and it's clearly has its flaws however the two decisions weren't mistakes by the officials. They've made the correct decision based on the rules in front of them.

*There could be an argument that Antonio's handball was deliberate and should have been given regardless but that's subjective and once the ref doesn't give it, it's lucky dip whether VAR will overturn it.
 
Oh that is fine then. So in the future instead of getting their arms amputated strikers just have to make sure their shots are saved and then go for rebounds instead because that is fine.
 
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Oh that is fine then. So in the future instead of getting their arms amputated strikers just have to make sure their shots are saved and then go for rebounds instead because that is fine.
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Like I said, the rule clearly has it's flaws. Had the keeper not saved Antonio's shot, it wouldn't have counted but by saving it and Antonio scoring in the scramble afterwards, it stands. It's mad, I know.
 
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Like I said, the rule clearly has it's flaws. Had the keeper not saved Antonio's shot, it wouldn't have counted but by saving it and Antonio scoring in the scramble afterwards, it stands. It's mad, I know.
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Yes because an offside leading up to a goal can get the goal chalked off (Ronaldo) but an intentional handball cannot. (Antonio).
 
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