Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [8th - 9th April 2023]

[adam cool dude]

He’s old school not many players like him and not many get his respect especially if you don’t deserve it.

That being said Robertson had no need to approach him, but the linesman had no need to react in that way. An apology should be sufficient but you know, modern football and all that.

The funniest thing for me is if that had happened on the field of play and it was an opposition player that had moved his arm like that, the player would’ve likely gone down like he’d been shot by a sniper. Funny how they react when an advantage is not to be gained.

I don't know I think Harry Kane would have back flipped into the stands if it was him. Who also remembers Son getting shot in the eye?

 

[a1ex2001]

Absolutely hilarious some comments on here. Robertson barely touches the official if he does at all and is elbowed in the face. Ive seen worse "hands on officials" all weekend lmao funnily enough without players being assaulted.

And there in lies the problem football has somehow got into a position where players surrounding and handling the officials is allowed. You are right Robertson hasn’t punched him or anything and the Lino’s reaction is ott but if Robertson doesn’t touch him the incident never happens and players simply shouldn’t be touching officials. Football has put itself in a ridiculous position and needs to fix it fast, for me only the captain or designated player if the captain is the keeper should be allowed to approach the referee. Anything else should be a yellow card and the same for any player including a captain who swears at or physically intimidated a referee touching an official in any way should be a straight red. You’d fix the problem in a weekend and hopefully it would cascade to grass roots level where the abuse of referees is a serious issue threatening the future of the game.

 

[omnomnom]

And there in lies the problem football has somehow got into a position where players surrounding and handling the officials is allowed. You are right Robertson hasn’t punched him or anything and the Lino’s reaction is ott but if Robertson doesn’t touch him the incident never happens and players simply shouldn’t be touching officials. Football has put itself in a ridiculous position and needs to fix it fast, for me only the captain or designated player if the captain is the keeper should be allowed to approach the referee. Anything else should be a yellow card and the same for any player including a captain who swears at or physically intimidated a referee touching an official in any way should be a straight red. You’d fix the problem in a weekend and hopefully it would cascade to grass roots level where the abuse of referees is a serious issue threatening the future of the game.

Does he even touch him?

 

[a1ex2001]

Does he even touch him?

I think he does and most others seem to agree that he does and again to be clear I’m not saying that justifies the reaction but if he doesn’t touch him it doesn’t happen. If footballers didn’t routinely handle and intimidate the officials the incident wouldn’t have occurred.

I really wish footballers would just get on with the game getting all gobby and debating things with the red never changes the decision so why do they do it?

 

[omnomnom]

I think he does and most others seem to agree that he does and again to be clear I’m not saying that justifies the reaction but if he doesn’t touch him it doesn’t happen. If footballers didn’t routinely handle and intimidate the officials the incident wouldn’t have occurred.

I really wish footballers would just get on with the game getting all gobby and debating things with the red never changes the decision so why do they do it?

Ive seen it a few times and dont see anything in it at all. Im not entirely sure why we are pointing the finger at the receiver of the elbow and not the one doing it.

If an official cant handle being an official without chinning players perhaps he needs to rethink his occupation? The crowd at every ground he goes to will be far more intimidating then a player.

 

[a1ex2001]

Ive seen it a few times and dont see anything in it at all. Im not entirely sure why we are pointing the finger at the receiver of the elbow and not the one doing it.

If an official cant handle being an official without chinning players perhaps he needs to rethink his occupation? The crowd at every ground he goes to will be far more intimidating then a player.

I’m not blaming Robertson and haven’t called for him to be punished or anything and I’ve said several times the officials response is OTT BUT if he doesn’t put a hand on him it doesn’t happen, if he doesn’t decide he needs to debate the decision it doesn’t happen. Of course the official shouldn’t have given him the elbow and he should be banned but it serves to highlight the much wider problem with players handling referees and the way they are treated in general. I would say the same regardless of the club he played for etc etc the on pitch behaviour of professional footballers is awful.

 

[C Kent]

I’m not blaming Robertson and haven’t called for him to be punished or anything and I’ve said several times the officials response is OTT BUT if he doesn’t put a hand on him it doesn’t happen, if he doesn’t decide he needs to debate the decision it doesn’t happen. Of course the official shouldn’t have given him the elbow and he should be banned but it serves to highlight the much wider problem with players handling referees and the way they are treated in general. I would say the same regardless of the club he played for etc etc the on pitch behaviour of professional footballers is awful.

It was the linesman, it was after the half time whistle. Are you sure you've even seen the incident?

 

[Doobedoo]

It definitely looks like Robertsons left arm pushes or is thrust towards the linesman which causes him to react. One thing for sure that incident doesn’t happen if Robertson doesn’t initiate it.

 

[omnomnom]

It definitely looks like Robertsons left arm pushes or is thrust towards the linesman which causes him to react. One thing for sure that incident doesn’t happen if Robertson doesn’t initiate it.

That video doesnt show that at all. It shows him walking up to the official...

"If Robertson doesnt walk up to the official he doesnt get chinned, simple as that"

lol

 

[Doobedoo]

That video doesnt show that at all. It shows him walking up to the official...

"If Robertson doesnt walk up to the official he doesnt get chinned, simple as that"

lol

You can’t see Robertson turn his body as he’s mouthing off to the linesman and his arm push the linesmans back?

 

[Doobedoo]

 

[manic111]

You can’t see Robertson turn his body as he’s mouthing off to the linesman and his arm push the linesmans back?

He puts his hand on him to get his attention, it's hardly pushing him.

And regardless, I'm not sure what your point is? Is it that elbowing him is acceptable? If not, what point are you trying to make? The ref booked Robertson, and given the scrutiny being given to the situation I'm sure the FA/PGMOL have considered whether that punishment should be increased.

 

[Doobedoo]

He puts his hand on him to get his attention, it's hardly pushing him.

And regardless, I'm not sure what your point is? Is it that elbowing him is acceptable? If not, what point are you trying to make? The ref booked Robertson, and given the scrutiny being given to the situation I'm sure the FA/PGMOL have considered whether that punishment should be increased.

He shouldn’t be doing itespecially so soon after a couple of high profile incidents. I’m not saying the linesman should’ve been reacting in that way but Robertson shouldn’t have invaded his personal space at all, especially as the linesman was making his way to an incident in the middle of the pitch. Robertson instigated that situation no doubt about it.

Both of them can be dealt with, with a telling off.

 

[omnomnom]

He shouldn’t be doing itespecially so soon after a couple of high profile incidents. I’m not saying the linesman should’ve been reacting in that way but Robertson shouldn’t have invaded his personal space at all, especially as the linesman was making his way to an incident in the middle of the pitch. Robertson instigated that situation no doubt about it.

Both of them can be dealt with, with a telling off.

No he wasnt...it was half time.

 

[C Kent]

He shouldn’t be doing itespecially so soon after a couple of high profile incidents. I’m not saying the linesman should’ve been reacting in that way but Robertson shouldn’t have invaded his personal space at all,

Victim blaming, beautiful

especially as the linesman was making his way to an incident in the middle of the pitch.

What incident?

 

[Doobedoo]

Victim blaming, beautiful

What incident?

Robertson isn’t a victim he instigated a situation and the big mass of players in the middle of the park that the linesman walks over to and Robertson follows him.

 

[C Kent]

Robertson isn’t a victim he instigated a situation

oh, having a chat with a lino is "instigating a situation" now? Amazing what blinkers will do if it's a Liverpool player involved

and the big mass of players in the middle of the park that the linesman walks over to and Robertson follows him.

you've actually no idea if was half time do you, despite it being mentioned numerous times

 

[Doobedoo]

oh, having a chat with a lino is "instigating a situation" now? Amazing what blinkers will do if it's a Liverpool player involved

you've actually no idea if was half time do you, despite it being mentioned numerous times

You’ve not been paying attention. He’s not having a chat with the linesman about the weather or when the best time to cut his grass is, he’s having a moan or a go for whatever it is he’s having a moan or a go for.

The linesman is walking directly towards the incident in the middle of the pitch he’s not in anyway focused on Robertson, Roberson quite clearly turns his body towards the lino invades his personal space and places his left arm on the linos back.

So yes only one person is instigating this situation, the lino rightly or wrongly reacts to things I’ve pointed out that wouldn’t have been a thing, if Robertson wasn’t either close enough to whisper sweet nothings in his ear, or actually putting his hand on the linos back.

So you can continue to make as bigger deal out of it as you want but if the linesman needs punishing then so does Robertson. Or you can just get on with life and actually focus on the performance of your team.

 

[manic111]

He shouldn’t be doing itespecially so soon after a couple of high profile incidents. I’m not saying the linesman should’ve been reacting in that way but Robertson shouldn’t have invaded his personal space at all, especially as the linesman was making his way to an incident in the middle of the pitch. Robertson instigated that situation no doubt about it.

Both of them can be dealt with, with a telling off.

I'm unclear, are you suggesting that any player who touches an official should be elbowed in the face, and that the punishment for those two things should be equal?

 

[Doobedoo]

I'm unclear, are you suggesting that any player who touches an official should be elbowed in the face, and that the punishment for those two things should be equal?

Does the lino intentionally elbow Robertson in the face or does the Lino react to the situation? Could the situation have been avoided if Robertson acted differently to begin with? The Lino doesn’t approach Robertson, Robertson approaches him, not only gives him some verbal abuse, but he actively invaded his space and puts hands on him. Don’t do that and the Lino has no justification to react at all.

But ultimately and this the bit that you guys continuously choose to miss, both parties should be spoken to and both should be taking responsibility for their actions. This is not a United fan piling in on Robertson although it’s still funny to see it happen. It’s really a mountain out of a mole hill situation, as was the Fernandes/Casmiro situations.