He really isnt. Until he learns to pass forwards, he isn't "quality". He doesn't progress the ball at all and is partly at fault for how United are. He's good when pressed ill give him that but he doesn't run a game and doesn't get into a top 4 team.
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Funny how Shaw was fit for England...
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How's he going to learn and develop at United though? That's the point, get out whilst you can/are still worth something. Every player who goes there gets worse (bar Bruno?). It's a poisoned chalice.
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Na what stings is Tottenham have won nothing in nearly 20 years.
This is exactly what people said about Henderson, but if you watched him frequently you knew they were wrong. I think Mainoo is class. He generally keeps the ball at the right time and takes risks at the right time, and in a young midfielder that's impressive
And they were statistically completely incorrect. Mainoo doesnt pass forwards.
In your opinion, does Mac Allister pass forwards?
Where do you think his best position is?
Central midfield. Probably an 8. He's similar to Modric (nowhere near as good, obviously).
Edit: he's also hugely press resistant. His feet are generally excellent (aside from against Liverpool
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Ahh, see i completely disagree, he lacks the ability to play in CM, he's further forward for me
He's nothing like Gini, the defensive side of his game is horrible, doesnt track back, doesnt track runners, leaves gaping holes in midfield as he's constantly pulled out of position - you could argue the last one is due to his age but there are other young players that dont get pulled here there and everywhere.
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I don't agree at all. Getting a player who's comfortable receiving the ball under pressure in his own third, who can also put tackles in and win the ball deep, is like absolute gold. Number 10s are (relatively) easy to buy nowadays. You've only got to look at what decent midfielders were sold for over the summer to realise that deeper players are rare.
What's he lacking for central midfield to your mind? The stats suggest that he's more than capable there defensively (although as I've said, I wouldn't play him as a 6).
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Saw your edit after i posted, so I've edited my post. Basically, the defensive side of his game is ******* atrocious. As i said during the euro's, he isn't a 'progressive passer', what he is is a 'progressive ball carrier'. Play to his strengths which is further forward imo. Ideally he'd be playing the odd game off the bench as a sub or getting game time in cups/europa league as being a mainstay of this utd's midfield wont do him any good.I don't agree at all. Getting a player who's comfortable receiving the ball under pressure in his own third, who can also put tackles in and win the ball deep, is like absolute gold. Number 10s are (relatively) easy to buy nowadays. You've only got to look at what decent midfielders were sold for over the summer to realise that deeper players are rare.
What's he lacking for central midfield to your mind? The stats suggest that he's more than capable there defensively (although as I've said, I wouldn't play him as a 6).
Kobbie Mainoo Scouting Report: Why Erik Ten Hag Will Be Reliant On The Teenager This Season
Tactical analysis of Kobbie Mainoo: Man United's rising star as England's potential deep-lying playmaker. Explore his strengths, weaknesses, and impact on the pitch through data-driven insights and in-depth scouting report.
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I mean, the stats don't suggest that that's the case. Insofar as there are holes, do you not think that that's at least heavily down to ETH? He's had all sorts of midfielders and not been able to put anything together which is even slightly coherent
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Stats on their own are largely useless, I do have eyes and the entirety of last season and now 6 league games and man utd's midfield is the poorest in the league, teams are literally able to get a 747 through the gaps because they are undisciplined and get moved all over the shop. Casemiro was broken trying to cover the space vacated by the guy, and Ugarte will be no different.
Mainoo is clearly a very talented player but at 19 he's no where near the finished article and has holes in his game, primarily the positional side of things. His biggest problem and why you get comments like @C Kent's is the fact he's being made the main man in midfield in a dysfunctional Utd side. He's not ready to be that and there's nobody alongside him capable of covering up his weaknesses. Two members of a large Utd YouTube outlet were ********s enough to suggest Souness was racist for pointing this out but Mainoo shouldn't be playing week in, week out for Utd at 19 years old. He should be getting dropped in and out of the side, with a stable midfield around him because they're seriously running the risk of running the kid into the ground before he turns 20.
I've always said that Fernandes causes Utd problems. He's been their best player since he signed but he unbalances the side and that's true both for their attacking players and midfield. If Utd played with a more orthodox 3 man midfield then Mainoo's positional issues wouldn't be exposed as much as they are now and Utd as a whole wouldn't be as easy to play through as they are. With Fernandes in the side, Mainoo still learning his position and huge question marks over Casemiro or Ugarte, it's no wonder Utd's midfield is wide open.
I've always said that Fernandes causes Utd problems. He's been their best player since he signed but he unbalances the side and that's true both for their attacking players and midfield. If Utd played with a more orthodox 3 man midfield then Mainoo's positional issues wouldn't be exposed as much as they are now and Utd as a whole wouldn't be as easy to play through as they are. With Fernandes in the side, Mainoo still learning his position and huge question marks over Casemiro or Ugarte, it's no wonder Utd's midfield is wide open.
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Will the new manager drop Bruno?
What like they have eventually done for every manager since Fergie left ?
I don’t get how people don’t understand this.
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Pretty much, yes. It’s not just that club though, collective player power is very strong.
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I can’t see how dropping Bruno improves that side although I suppose we’ll get to see it over the next three weeks. At least he tries, several times last season he was the difference between getting a result or not.