Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [12th - 17th August 2016]

Agreed, it's not the ideal start for Arsenal but it's only the first game of the season, and there are still over two weeks until the transfer window closes. It's far too early to really be drawing conclusions about any side, once teams are back to mostly full strength and have new signings bedded in then we can start to judge them.
 
Well we lost the first game of the season last year so at least we are consistent. I left the room for about 15 minutes at 1-0 thinking to miss a penalty and then score one in open play would probably do Walcott good. Then looked at the score and it was already 1-2...

At least it's not like how it used to be when you could only lose three games all year to win the league. Still hope but a few signings would certainly bring the morale up.
 
For me its not the result that has me so frustrated, its another summer of the same old crap.

If we'd have come out today having signed Mustafi, Xhaka, Vardy and Mikhataryan and got porked 4-0 I wouldn't be half as frustrated. We need to get our business done in the transfer market, and we're not capable of doing that it seems - and unless we can change that we're going to fall further behind. Vardy and Mikhi didn't want to come to us, fair enough, we tried... but they're not the only players out there that can play in those roles, if we are unable to get them then we need to be bidding elsewhere, it is not acceptable to start another season 2 or 3 players short of what you'd consider we need to challenge for the title.

If we'd have gone out and spent money the whole atmosphere around the club would be different right now, Arsenal fans wouldn't have that "same stuff, different day" feeling, the atmosphere at the Emirates wouldn't be half as toxic as for once we could say that the club has made a real effort to plug the gaps in the squad. Instead we're all filled with dread, because chances are that come the end of the transfer window we're going to be stuck with the same team that we have now, and we're in for another season of doing nothing.

Too often we get the excuse that the players are not available, or we can't get the business done - yet everybody else has managed it. United have picked up some top players, City have spent a fortune, Liverpool have spent well to address the gaps in their team and once again we haven't. If we do not have the negotiators capable of bringing in the players we need then get rid of them... or is it that the money is not there? If the money is not there then that needs to be leaked out - but I personally don't see how we can be short of money, we've had £150m allegedly in the bank for years now, and then there was this years TV deal. if the money isn't there its because Kroenke doesn't want to spend it, and if that's the case somebody close to the club needs to come out and state that so instead of getting on the back of the manager we can have a pop at the owner for lining his pockets.

I'm not asking for Arsenal to spend £150m like United and City have done, we don't have the finances to be able to match that sort of expenditure - but given the TV deal and the underinvestment in recent years £75m ~ £90m would have done the job and seen me happy.

We have too many squad players, not enough stars, and once again we are lacking in key areas with absolutely no sign of our weaknesses being addressed, yet we still pay the highest ticket prices in the league.
 
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For me its not the result that has me so frustrated, its another summer of the same old crap.

If we'd have come out today having signed Mustafi, Xhaka, Vardy and Mikhataryan and got porked 4-0 I wouldn't be half as frustrated. We need to get our business done in the transfer market, and we're not capable of doing that it seems - and unless we can change that we're going to fall further behind. Vardy and Mikhi didn't want to come to us, fair enough, we tried... but they're not the only players out there that can play in those roles, if we are unable to get them then we need to be bidding elsewhere, it is not acceptable to start another season 2 or 3 players short of what you'd consider we need to challenge for the title.

If we'd have gone out and spent money the whole atmosphere around the club would be different right now, Arsenal fans wouldn't have that "same stuff, different day" feeling, the atmosphere at the Emirates wouldn't be half as toxic as for once we could say that the club has made a real effort to plug the gaps in the squad. Instead we're all filled with dread, because chances are that come the end of the transfer window we're going to be stuck with the same team that we have now, and we're in for another season of doing nothing.

Too often we get the excuse that the players are not available, or we can't get the business done - yet everybody else has managed it. United have picked up some top players, City have spent a fortune, Liverpool have spent well to address the gaps in their team and once again we haven't. If we do not have the negotiators capable of bringing in the players we need then get rid of them... or is it that the money is not there? If the money is not there then that needs to be leaked out - but I personally don't see how we can be short of money, we've had £150m allegedly in the bank for years now, and then there was this years TV deal. if the money isn't there its because Kroenke doesn't want to spend it, and if that's the case somebody close to the club needs to come out and state that so instead of getting on the back of the manager we can have a pop at the owner for lining his pockets.

I'm not asking for Arsenal to spend £150m like United and City have done, we don't have the finances to be able to match that sort of expenditure - but given the TV deal and the underinvestment in recent years £75m ~ £90m would have done the job and seen me happy.

We have too many squad players, not enough stars, and once again we are lacking in key areas with absolutely no sign of our weaknesses being addressed, yet we still pay the highest ticket prices in the league.

I read this the other week. Interesting read.

The thing that I don't understand is in the whole of Europe or even the world Wenger cant find a striker to add to the squad. :confused:

If he cant get the expensive stickers he wants go and sign a 30 mill and under one who is less know but with a good goal scoring record. Someone with the physical attributes he is looking for.

They are out there.

Today against Liverpool we played the game with no recognised striker nether on the field or off it. Liverpool had 2 on the pitch. Origi and Mane.

How are other clubs able to get their transfer business done and get players and we struggle.

It occurred to me the other day that every team in the world know Arsenal are desperate for a striker so when we come calling the price will go up.

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As for todays game, we should not be coinciding 4 goals at home to anyone. Yes we had two rookie centerbacks but then change the tactics slightly to protect them.

I love Wenger I think on the whole he has done a brilliant job at Arsenal but the day he calls it quits I think will be a day to celebrate the fact we now have a chance to get some fresh ideas in to the club.
 
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I read this the other week. Interesting read.

Interesting read that. Can't disagree with any of it in all honesty. I'm now thinking that even if we got a new manager in, things wouldn't change as we aren't a club that spends hundreds of millions on new players.

The one thing that stood out for me in that article is how easily we signed Xhaka, no other clubs made a play for him because if other clubs had...his price would have shot up exponentially. Seems like every season we sign a player, no other club wants them ie Sanchez, Cech and Özil to an degree.

Meh I wasn't surprised we lost today, when I saw holding and chambers as cb's I had a feeling it was going to be a tough afternoon. Turned out it was although commendable that we came back from 4-1 to 4-3. Just a bit frustrated that we didn't get a point or a win out of it.

Anyhow onto Leicester for our next game, think that will be another tough game for us as they lost yesterday and will be looking to bounce back.

I'm hoping that Ozil, Giroud and Kos will be back by then.
 
Wengers always had a thing for CM and AM... we've got 7 or 8 first team CM, why do we not have any more strikers at the club other than Giroud and Akpom?

Same old same old again isn't from the Arsenal? :o
 
Wengers always had a thing for CM and AM... we've got 7 or 8 first team CM, why do we not have any more strikers at the club other than Giroud and Akpom?

Same old same old again isn't from the Arsenal? :o

Welbeck? Asano? and we know Wenger wants another striker. 5 players for 1 position.

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If Mustafi comes next week that be will 80m this summer, it's not a patch on some clubs around us. We must surely be able to splash 50m on a striker if the right one comes around.
 
Yeh Lacazette scored a hat trick earlier today. I'm still not convinced he is the answer but sometimes you have to take a chance so maybe Wenger needs to pony up the 50mill or so for him and get him into the squad. He can't be any worse than what we have at the moment lol.

Meh I don't know, one min Wenger is saying we are going to buy a striker then next he says he is only looking to get defensive cover in

I just wish that we wouldn't leave our signings till the last min as now teams will ramp up their prices with certain players.
 
You scored 3 goals, maybe attacking isn't the problem...

Defensively we were a disaster with both inexperienced cb's. Doesn't help that Kos wasn't part of the squad ie not match fit. Perhaps if we had him then it wouldn't have been so bad but meh at least chambers and Holding have had a baptism of fire so to speak:p

It's always been a problem for us defensively, if it isn't defensive then it's the offensive problem.

Anyhow not too worried about the loss today, we always start off slowly but then slowly pick ourselves back up.

Hopefully with Özil, Giroud and Kos back soon, things will settle down. Also hoping that we tie down Mustafi soon as well. But with him, it could take a little while for him to get used to the PL.
 
without a striker and CB, I would be genuinely worried about top 4 if I was an Arsenal fan.

We hear the same thing every year. What's incredible is how Arsenal manage to be so depleted on the opening day every year. I know it's been said by everybody already but why couldn't Kosthingy, Giroud and Ozil been involved today? Other players that represented France and Germany have been involved for their clubs and they've not had the injury problems Arsenal have.
 
We hear the same thing every year. What's incredible is how Arsenal manage to be so depleted on the opening day every year. I know it's been said by everybody already but why couldn't Kosthingy, Giroud and Ozil been involved today? Other players that represented France and Germany have been involved for their clubs and they've not had the injury problems Arsenal have.

Kos and Ozil have hardly had a rest though since August last year, pretty much every PL and CL match i think. Giroud broke his ankle or something and was out for 2/3 months. It could be the reason they've been allowed an extended rest. I don't know obviously, but it could be the reason
 
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