Caporegime
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Clichy's crossing was absolutely shocking. He never picked out a man, ever and yes, he put plenty of crosses (if you can call them that) whilst at Arsenal. To be fair its very close between Gibbs and Clichy of worse Arsenal left back for 30 years. I'm not including Santos in that because, we never played there even when he was told to!
No, Rosicky wasn't anomalous before and after the Spurs game last season. He was one of our most effective midfielders.
Not sure why you've gone to ranting about Arshavin and Gervinho/Podolski
Its simple, people are wondering why Monreal wasn't getting played, the same question applies to why Arshavin wasn't played, when Jenk's isn't played, why Podolski has barely been used in two months, and why Gervinho/Gibbs/Sagna/Diaby/Ramsey/etc/etc get such long runs in the team no matter how bad they are.
Also yes, go back and look at media reports AND on here, everyone was saying what the hell is the point of Rosicky and asking why he was starting, he was completely pointless for the first 2/3rd's of last season, and did nothing towards the end of the season either.
Clichy was a very good defender at Arsenal, a defence and a defender are entirely different things, the Arsenal defence while he was there was going downhill, people can't seem to separate out the player and the defence. 80% of Vermaelen's mistakes are making up for the others being out of position, etc, etc. Clichy looked instantly back to the player in his first couple years in the first team with us(when we had a better defence), basically the second he joined City. Why, its the defence as a unit at Arsenal that was the problem, not Clichy, and considering he can cross fine at City, claiming he can't cross is daft.
I've not really seen him play that much for city. He was alright as a defender up until towards the end of 07/08 season, then he started making costly mistakes on a regular basis and it all went downhill from there. Also won't help a defender's reputation being playing for arsenal the past 4-5 seasons but the way DM thinks that every layer we let go is awesome and every player we keep or bring in is rubbish is just, wrong. That's my opinion anyway
No, not every player who leaves is great, the fundamental problem is the players who SHOULD leave because they aren't good, don't leave... hence great players are the ones leaving(mostly). Nasri was meh, I said so, he was massively over rated, Song is poo, Djourou is crap, Denilson is crap, Arsenal's problem is fundamentally that we've been losing our best players, while keeping the worst ones.
I also haven't said every player we've brought in is rubbish. This is just the nonsense people come out with on this forum. Santi is quality, just not at Cesc's ability, Giroud isn't bad at all, but not being used effectively, AOC has potential but is barely being used and used in the wrong position often. Ramsey was very promising when we got him, he isn't any more, injury, the general Arsenal thing where quite a lot of players end up much worse than when we got them, I don't know.
Monreal looks quality, Kos looks decent, more than good enough, Sagna was excellent for 9 months, downhill since then. Podolski is brilliant, Arteta is excellent..... Gervinho IS rubbish, Santos IS rubbish, Mert is meh, I think he's just way to slow, looks completely out of his depth. Jenks is very decent with a lot of potential.
Whats surprising about this, crap players stay at top team on big wages because there aren't any offers to do better, great players not winning stuff at Arsenal... leave. Its only natural that in our position we lose our best players and keep the worst... not least when Wenger keeps offering the dross new contracts.
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