Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16th - 21st April 2016]

I was at the Arsenal game yesterday. The atmosphere was awful, I was pretty much the only one making any noise in the area I was in. The amount of promising positions just given up on because we daren't give the ball away is ridiculous, and this is against one of the worst form teams in the league. Theo has actually gone backwards, that little cameo not long after he came on summed him up perfectly. Starts running, someone in front of him, scared to take him on, no idea what to do, runs gently into him and falls over. Pathetic! We are in danger of dropping out of the top 4 now we've given up chasing Spurs.
 
Yup, as soon as we're not 'challenging' for the league, all the plastics **** off. I hate going to the Emirates and the majority of home fans as they whinge and whine about anything and everything.

Foolishly I have a ticket for Sunderland, at least the away fans tend to create some sort of atmosphere but I'd be surprised we'll come away with 3 points against a team fighting for their lives.

I'm more focused on Spurs dropping points and not winning the league atm :o I guess this is what it feels like to have been a spurs fan for the past 20 years :(
 
We are in danger of dropping out of the top 4 now we've given up chasing Spurs.

We are in serious danger of dropping out of the top 4 now. We should easily be 2nd if not 3rd comfortably. However, with the form we're in and Man City/Utd and West Ham being in somewhat decent form.......
This would be a massive fail on Wenger's behalf.
 
I was at the Arsenal game yesterday. The atmosphere was awful, I was pretty much the only one making any noise in the area I was in. The amount of promising positions just given up on because we daren't give the ball away is ridiculous, and this is against one of the worst form teams in the league. Theo has actually gone backwards, that little cameo not long after he came on summed him up perfectly. Starts running, someone in front of him, scared to take him on, no idea what to do, runs gently into him and falls over. Pathetic! We are in danger of dropping out of the top 4 now we've given up chasing Spurs.

https://streamable.com/zei8

I linked that earlier but just for you the exact moment you're talking about. Not regressed though, that is Walcott and has always been Walcott. He runs a bit, takes a billion touches to go 10 metres then when he sees people to beat he slows down, gets scared, steps on the ball and falls over, he even asks for a freekick in frustration when he gets his feet caught up with the ball.

Bad atmosphere, think about this, a decade ago Arsenal fans were seeing Flamini being underpaid, not given a deal but showing more heart than most of the squad before leaving because Wenger treated him like crap. At the same time Walcott had joined and was being paid like 40k a week at first. A full decade later and we got Flamini back after he was broken injury wise, no where near as good but still one of the only players with real heart, ticket prices have gone up and Walcott is being paid 140k a week. Arsenal fans have seen no change except ticket prices and the wages the crap players are getting increased drastically.

You really can't blame the fans, there is zero reason for optimism at this stage of the season and they are being milked for all they are worth just so guys like Walcott can be paid that much then come on the pitch and look worse than any player I've seen last this long at Arsenal since I've been alive.

Wenger needs to go because he's completely incompetent at this point, but he also needs to go because the fans and many of the players have lost faith in him. RVP, Fabregas, Henry, Nasri, Clichy all left not because Arsenal were desperate for the cash but because they wanted to win things at other clubs and didn't believe Wenger could provide those things. The fans and players need a new manager to have any belief that Arsenal can win a league title again.
 
Yup, as soon as we're not 'challenging' for the league, all the plastics **** off. I hate going to the Emirates and the majority of home fans as they whinge and whine about anything and everything.

Foolishly I have a ticket for Sunderland, at least the away fans tend to create some sort of atmosphere but I'd be surprised we'll come away with 3 points against a team fighting for their lives.

I'm more focused on Spurs dropping points and not winning the league atm :o I guess this is what it feels like to have been a spurs fan for the past 20 years :(

It's got absolutely nothing to do with challenging for the league. Watching abject performance after abject performance, paying a lot of money to see the likes of Walcott jog around like it means nothing to them.... that is why the fans aren't loud with excitement and support. The fans don't want to pay Walcott 140k a week nor support him because he's done nothing in a decade with the team to earn it.
 
https://streamable.com/zei8

I linked that earlier but just for you the exact moment you're talking about. Not regressed though, that is Walcott and has always been Walcott. He runs a bit, takes a billion touches to go 10 metres then when he sees people to beat he slows down, gets scared, steps on the ball and falls over, he even asks for a freekick in frustration when he gets his feet caught up with the ball.

Disagree with that, even at the start of the season he was showing willingness to run at people, was passing properly, making the right runs etc. It's almost like he can't be bothered now though.
 
It's got absolutely nothing to do with challenging for the league. Watching abject performance after abject performance, paying a lot of money to see the likes of Walcott jog around like it means nothing to them.... that is why the fans aren't loud with excitement and support. The fans don't want to pay Walcott 140k a week nor support him because he's done nothing in a decade with the team to earn it.

I was referring to the large number of empty seats yesterday. As soon as most fans finally got it in their heads that we can't win the league and won't catch spurs, they can't be arsed to turn up or support the team.

I don't blame them having enough (I myself have become comfortably numb the past few years towards Arsenal's shortcomings) but I find it comical when the majority think we're capable of winning the league, got a great team (when we're doing well) and then turn into spoilt children when we implode as per usual and they are outraged every single season.

Anyway, sod it. One more season of this and then hopefully things shall change. Next season will be embarrassing if/when we don't strengthen in the right places in the summer.
 
I'm actually rooting for Spurs, i'd rather them win it than Leicester.

Sorry Arsenal fans, it's nothing personal, I just couldn't stand Gary bloody Lineker smugly gushing from every orifice.
 
that is why the fans aren't loud with excitement and support..

They've never been loud with excitement and support. Take Leicester for example, yesterday when they went down 2-1 to West Ham, the crowd were cheering on the team, pushing them to get an equaliser. Whether you like it or not, it's not same at the Emirates crowd. This whole season has been littered with scenerios like that. The difference is astonishing.
 
They've never been loud with excitement and support. Take Leicester for example, yesterday when they went down 2-1 to West Ham, the crowd were cheering on the team, pushing them to get an equaliser. Whether you like it or not, it's not same at the Emirates crowd. This whole season has been littered with scenerios like that. The difference is astonishing.

You really like to choose which parts you read, I related it directly to years of watching Arsenal grow into a club they don't love any more. I've been to plenty of games at Highbury, the first years at Emirates as well as seeing the stadium on tv then and now and can see the difference.

When you have belief then fans are excited and cheer during the bad games as well, when you've had years of becoming angry at how the club is run you no longer have the passion nor the belief that randomly cheering like idiots will somehow spur on the likes of Walcott to claw back an important win.

The bad performances over a very long period, the consistent throwing away the league challenge, the consistent blowing up in the CL, it's taken it's toll on the fans. The fans react the way they do because Arsenal have become a team haven't earned that kind of support through their performances.
 
I can't decide who I want to win the League, Leicester or Spurs. If it wasn't for cm I'd have no problem with Spurs winning it and if it wasn't for Vardy I'd have no problem with Leicester winning it but those 2 make the thought of either winning it unbearable.
 
You really like to choose which parts you read, I related it directly to years of watching Arsenal grow into a club they don't love any more. I've been to plenty of games at Highbury, the first years at Emirates as well as seeing the stadium on tv then and now and can see the difference.

When you have belief then fans are excited and cheer during the bad games as well, when you've had years of becoming angry at how the club is run you no longer have the passion nor the belief that randomly cheering like idiots will somehow spur on the likes of Walcott to claw back an important win.

The bad performances over a very long period, the consistent throwing away the league challenge, the consistent blowing up in the CL, it's taken it's toll on the fans. The fans react the way they do because Arsenal have become a team haven't earned that kind of support through their performances.

Haha..that's the biggest amount of rubbish i've ever heard.
 
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