Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [19 - 21st October 2012]

Tummy said:
I haven't made excuses for the Wednesday chants. I've said that I'd be more then happy to see those fans removed, there were so little of them singing that I only caught the beat of the chant and not the actual words.

Abuse thrown at players isn't unusual in a local derby. Wednesday fans were giving that while Leeds fans were singing songs about Jones, all game, singing songs about Jimmy Saville, there were very few reditions of any actual Leeds songs.

Dave Jones didn't react at all to the Leeds fans until the very end of the match when he took objection to Warnock telling his players to applaud them. Warnock played up to the crowd all game.

I don't think the abuse is right, but the abuse at Warnock was nothing that is unusual in a local derby, the Jones abuse was different.
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You're making it sound like you're ok with people chanting about turkey and murdered fans, but not ok to call your manager a peado. The honest view is that neither set of fans were in the right last night, stop trying to defend them.

If this game had been at Leeds rather than sheff wednesday then you'd have the exact same thing the other way around.... at home you'd have a smaller group chanting foul comments, the larger group cheering on their team. Just because you couldn't hear them doesn't mean they aren't there (to be honest i could hear them well enough on TV last night though, must have had a mic pretty close by....)

My point anyway....in the end it's all come down to one complete moron that's decided to take things too far, and that's all it is ONE moron.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Thought that was going in for a second. :o
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LOL same here, luckily for Chelsea Luiz didnt get a leg on it...silly boy, what was he thinking sticking his leg out :/

And Sturridge makes it 4-2....game over for Spurs.

Mata has been immense for Chelsea, a shame Arsenal couldnt nab him last year.
 
mrbios said:
You're making it sound like you're ok with people chanting about turkey and murdered fans, but not ok to call your manager a peado. The honest view is that neither set of fans were in the right last night, stop trying to defend them.

If this game had been at Leeds rather than sheff wednesday then you'd have the exact same thing the other way around.... at home you'd have a smaller group chanting foul comments, the larger group cheering on their team. Just because you couldn't hear them doesn't mean they aren't there (to be honest i could hear them well enough on TV last night though, must have had a mic pretty close by....)
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No, you've been missing the bits where I've said that I'd be more then happy to throw out the fans who were singing those songs :o

I've not said Wednesday are blameless, but their singing doesn't somehow make the Leeds behaviour any better for the last quarter of the game does it?

The abuse Warnock got, he played up for and gave back, is totally different to the abuse Dave Jones got, consistently from kick off.

I'm surprised you hear much of the chanting on television because by the time the Leeds goal went in they were removing ball boys, photographers and camera men from that end of the ground.

think when Dave Jones was talking about the paedophile ‘Jimmy Saville’ chants by the Leeds fans about him when he was comparing it to racism and calling them animals. He said something like ‘I’ve had it for 12 years…’


I think it’s disgusting that Jones has to go through that in public; the guy has never done anything to anyone and the whole story was so tragic the way his family got caught up and his father died I believe as a result of the stress of the false allegations.. Normally I’m quite laissez-faire about letting fans chant offensive things but this really bothers me. If you called him those things anywhere else you would be up in court. At first I thought he was needlessly having a go at Warnock, but if Neil has stood next to him for 90 mins and heard this terrible stuff then you can see how going to clap the fans after might seem like you condone it.
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