Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [19 - 23rd January 2013]

Damn Redknapp is a fool. Neville is sensible on Deuce not going down for the red and the pen and Redknapp cant see that as being the tactical decision!
 
At least spurs didnt do the double over us

5 pnt advantage is better than nowt (or even 4 this morning lol)

Just trying to find the positives

Now onto Fulham twice inside 8 days (with Southampton inbetween)

edit - decides to ignore a certain post
 
BaZ87 said:
Who was is that said De Gea's got better at dealing with crosses? We might have a new Pigeon :p
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That would be me. :p He was a little unlucky to be fair to him but he still should have done better. Rafael and Valencia made a complete hash of preventing the cross coming in which didn't help.

Valencia has been awful this season, he's doing none of the things he does well and everything else wrong. Clearly trying to play him back into form isn't working so we should save him for Cup games and less important games, he's a liability at the moment.
 
mmj_uk said:
What has he said now? that Evra could have been killed by the snowballs Spurs fans threw?

United were lucky to get a draw, several Spurs chances were straight at the keeper.
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Haha, not far from it.

Just his usual whinging about decisions from the officials costing them a game that they "dominated", in his own words.
Has he forgotten the past 5 or so seasons where referring decisions have cost us wins against united?!
Apparently we were just booting the ball into the box and that was all we could do.
Funnily enough we missed 5 1on1 chances, playing it into the box.

I think he has gotten too friendly with Wenger. They are both watching different game together now.
 
Jakstaar2007 said:
Haha, not far from it.

Just his usual whinging about decisions from the officials costing them a game that they "dominated", in his own words.
Apparently we were just booting the ball into the box and that was all we could do.
Funnily enough we missed 5 1on1 chances, playing it into the box.

I think he has gotten too friendly with Wenger. They are both watching different game together now.
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He gave Spurs the credit they deserved and said they deserved a point :confused: And we all know why it is that Fergie focuses on and places a lot of blame on officials decisions (aside from the fact that today it was quite blatantly a penalty and the ref had a perfect view), it takes a little pressure off the team which arguably should have performed better today.
 
One More Solo said:
Valencia has been awful this season, he's doing none of the things he does well and everything else wrong. Clearly trying to play him back into form isn't working so we should save him for Cup games and less important games, he's a liability at the moment.
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Wonder if its the No7 thats putting too much pressure on him.

He just hasnt been his normal self this season, and Utd are suffering because of it
 
Let's be honest, if that penalty decision had been denied to Spurs we'd still be hearing about it 8 years from now (when was the Carroll incident again?). :D

Can I just say, our squad is appalling. We have to put up with Carrick when Barcelona have Xavi and Iniesta. We have Valencia not Messi or Ronaldo. Our players are ****, why don't we just sign everybody that I think is good on FM?
 
One More Solo said:
Can I just say, our squad is appalling. We have to put up with Carrick when Barcelona have Xavi and Iniesta. We have Valencia not Messi or Ronaldo. Our players are ****, why don't we just sign everybody that I think is good on FM?
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Dont worry, before long we will have The Great British Hope that is Zaha, who is better than everyone you mentioned :D
 
One More Solo said:
Let's be honest, if that penalty decision had been denied to Spurs we'd still be hearing about it 8 years from now (when was the Carroll incident again?). :D

Can I just say, our squad is appalling. We have to put up with Carrick when Barcelona have Xavi and Iniesta. We have Valencia not Messi or Ronaldo. Our players are ****, why don't we just sign everybody that I think is good on FM?
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Welcome to Wenger Town, Fergie has lost his marbles and is now as senile as Wenger(it hit Wenger earlier obviously). You could have told Welbeck where the nearest private room was so he could go **** himself when he demanded a huge wage, instead he decided he was top notch and worth paying 85k a week(or there abouts... lol). Nothing was forcing him to keep him, nothings forcing him to buy Buttner(who so far looks terrible).

Making the wrong decision on 2 players a season in 3-4 seasons catches up with the team badly. Sign the wrong player, or keep the wrong player, or let the wrong player go and you end up with a painfully poor squad.

I'm not having a go at Utd because thats who they are, Jones doesn't look like the future of English defence, Welbeck doesn't look inteligent enough to be the future of a Mcdonalds branch let alone Utd's offence, Carrick, Anderson.

He's doing all the things Wenger is doing, persisting with someone like Anderson, throwing more money down the drain hoping one day he'll completely turn around, he won't. Sticking with Welbeck for no apparent reason. At this point its very rare for Fergie to get rid of someone crap and replace them with someone better, which ultimately should be the first thing on a managers to do list every summer.

RVP is one of the few good choices Fergie has made in a while.
 
Pighardia said:
Lennon motm for me. Looked very lively and was very dangerous late on.
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Just on my way back from the match (I can't feel my toes :() and I totally agree. Looked dangerous going forward and worked hard defensively.

Last minute goals always feel good but I felt Spurs had the best of the chances. It goes to show what a difference a striker like RvP makes to a team.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Welcome to Wenger Town, Fergie has lost his marbles and is now as senile as Wenger(it hit Wenger earlier obviously). You could have told Welbeck where the nearest private room was so he could go **** himself when he demanded a huge wage, instead he decided he was top notch and worth paying 85k a week(or there abouts... lol). Nothing was forcing him to keep him, nothings forcing him to buy Buttner(who so far looks terrible).

Making the wrong decision on 2 players a season in 3-4 seasons catches up with the team badly. Sign the wrong player, or keep the wrong player, or let the wrong player go and you end up with a painfully poor squad.

I'm not having a go at Utd because thats who they are, Jones doesn't look like the future of English defence, Welbeck doesn't look inteligent enough to be the future of a Mcdonalds branch let alone Utd's offence, Carrick, Anderson.

He's doing all the things Wenger is doing, persisting with someone like Anderson, throwing more money down the drain hoping one day he'll completely turn around, he won't. Sticking with Welbeck for no apparent reason. At this point its very rare for Fergie to get rid of someone crap and replace them with someone better, which ultimately should be the first thing on a managers to do list every summer.

RVP is one of the few good choices Fergie has made in a while.
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RVP and Rooney are arguably financed by the cheaper deals you listed. Welbeck might be on a high wage but that is still not crushing the bank considering his total cost. The money has been spent on RVP, Rooney, De Gea and Kagawa. As they are top of the league it is hard to argue that he has performed poorly with transfers.
 
Can't believe Chelsea held on today, that makes a nice change and hopefully it'll be the end of stupid performances at home.
I thought Cahill had a great game by the way as did Mata & Hazard, cracking goal by Mata too, his touch is sublime at times.
Torres was inept again but funnily it was one of his best games as at least he tried.
In real time I thought the Ramires pen was a definite but having now seen it again I'm not so sure, Chesney didn't seem to complain much about the decision though. But the ref bottled it that's for sure, if he thought it was a foul then it had to be a red card.
 
JohnnyG said:
In real time I thought the Ramires pen was a definite but having now seen it again I'm not so sure, Chesney didn't seem to complain much about the decision though. But the ref bottled it that's for sure, if he thought it was a foul then it had to be a red card.
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Supposedly he's conceded it was a pen.

Disagree about the red though. Ramires cuts the ball back straight towards an Arsenal defender; there's enough doubt as to whether he's going to get on the end of it for the ref not to send the keeper off.
 
Snax said:
RVP and Rooney are arguably financed by the cheaper deals you listed. Welbeck might be on a high wage but that is still not crushing the bank considering his total cost. The money has been spent on RVP, Rooney, De Gea and Kagawa. As they are top of the league it is hard to argue that he has performed poorly with transfers.
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THe whole league has gone to crap though, being the best of a ever weakening league isn't as good a thing as it sounds. There is a reason why in the past 2 years English teams are starting to be more routinely embarrassed, yeah, its still a cup competition and anyone can win, especially with anti football, playing "proper" football Chelsea looked much much worse this season.

A 5 year 85k a week contract for Welbeck(assuming 5 years) probably has a couple mil signing bonus and will likely take out at least 20mil from the club, despite him being basically rubbish.

Welbecks aren't what help you fund RVP's, Utd have bagloads of money and can do significantly better.

For example, making the choice to let Welbeck walk, and buying Michu on a 40k a week contract at 2mil would save you 10mil over a 5 year contract AND you have a MUCH better player.

Transfer fee's are the small part of spending, wages is where the real money goes every year, and every bad player you pay, when you can NOT pay them, is money you could spend on other players. Every decision like Welbeck adds up, 20mil over the next 5 years, its probably closer to 25mil with a signing bonus, and thats likely excluding appearance/goal/assist bonuses and a basic wage rise every year. 3 players like that and you're talking about Messi/Ronaldo level wage for someone.

Welbeck + Berbatov + Giggs + anderson was throwing away how much a year.

When Utd were their best, and when Arsenal were their best, there was no room in the first team for rubbish players, no chance of players who were really crap getting improved contracts, no massively overpaying in a desparate attempt to keep very average or poor players around. Two managers who were cut throat, who got rid of Beckham, Stam, Overmars, Petit.
 
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