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Just an example of the issues?
Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [19th - 24th April 2019]
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Just an example of the issues?
I don’t hope anyone leaves, nor did I say big names would leave this summer.
Do some reading about the UAE...
I'm not sure I believe you on the first part but fair enough. Likewise if you didn't mean this summer regarding sales - I'm not sure you can look too far beyond next summer in regards to what might be though. Who knows who City's manager will be in 2 years time let alone which players will be at either club. I'd say it's more likely that City will have lost more key players than us in 2-3 years with Kompany, Fernandinho, David Silva and Aguero all the wrong side of 30. The key is how both sides replace any of these players that do leave - City have the money but we've probably been a bit smarter in the transfer market than them.
City are a phenomenal side and will take some beating but we're not too bad ourselves and most importantly have a really strong foundation to maintain this level. If we can improve our depth, particularly in attack then I'm confident we'll be even stronger next season.
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Interesting read thanks for sharing.
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As much as oil money helps a team, other than Guardiola who could achieve what he has with City?
They've had oil money since 2008 and have three Premiership titles and an FA Cup to their name. Arsenal and United were far more prolific at their peak and any other season we'd have beaten them convincingly so it is possible to compete, it's just bloody tough when an exceptional team are managed by an exceptional manager.
Also, Pep's not a manager that sticks around once he's achieved what he wants and I fully expect him to bugger off to France or Italy sooner rather than later.
They've had oil money since 2008 and have three Premiership titles and an FA Cup to their name. Arsenal and United were far more prolific at their peak and any other season we'd have beaten them convincingly so it is possible to compete, it's just bloody tough when an exceptional team are managed by an exceptional manager.
Also, Pep's not a manager that sticks around once he's achieved what he wants and I fully expect him to bugger off to France or Italy sooner rather than later.
Yeh I give him possibly another yr or so then he’s off to find new challenges.
The only trophy he needs to win at the moment is the CL trophy. So probably give another yr or so and if he doesn’t win it with City then he will be off.
The only trophy he needs to win at the moment is the CL trophy. So probably give another yr or so and if he doesn’t win it with City then he will be off.
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Man City are not as prolific as the top 6 are much better than they were before. Even still if City were to win this league title and next year they would be the only other Premier league team to win 3 consecutive titles. Also over two years they have a potential to bring home 5 major trophies. Pep Guardiola has been given a blank cheque book though and has never proven to build a team the old fashioned way.
Klopp has done far better job in my opinion.
Yes I to think klopp is the better manager as hasn't had a blank cheque book pep is very careful were he goes Barcelona was a brilliant team before he took over Munich were always in contention for the league in Germany and city had decent players already then he spent a load more but did buy wisely not like united klopp took over Liverpool and has improved them on a tighter budget
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He'll probably go to Juve next lol. They already dominate the league but are desperate to win the CL, plus there's been rumblings that they want to get rid of Allegri, so it would make sense.
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I wish SSN would shut up about Roy Keane. Good lord, they’ve concentrated more on him than the actual game.
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Well soon the oil will dry up once we sort out the climate change
Lol indeed, I’d love to see how he would do as the Utd manager himself.
Well, he couldn't do any worse than the people who've followed Fergie.
Well Ole has the worst win percentage of any Man Utd manager in the entire history of the club, so Keane probably couldn't do worse than that you'd think
(28% , the second worst is Jack Robson with 29.5% between 1914 and 1921)
Probably get fired for some kind of assault on the players! Would definitely be a dangerous move
But yeah definitely something not right at the moment, obviously some of the players are close friends but that doesn't mean all of them should perform badly or all want to leave. Can't help but think pogba is definitely a major factor in all this. Either he stays and gives it his all every game or goes, at the moment the latter is looking more likely.
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Well Ole has the worst win percentage of any Man Utd manager in the entire history of the club, so Keane probably couldn't do worse than that you'd think
(28% , the second worst is Jack Robson with 29.5% between 1914 and 1921)
Where did you get that figure from? He has won more games than he has lost. He is at 62% currently. Lost 8 games. Of those 4 were against the top teams of their league PSG, City and Barca X2.
People forget we beat PSG, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs away and drew with Liverpool. Something is clearly wrong at the moment but Ole is not the reason. After the first bout of injuries it has all been downhill.
Well technically the article stated the worst record of any "Permanent" Utd manager, so I imagine it discounts the results prior to him officially getting the job, and would likewise discount the results of other past manager prior to them officially getting the job. I agree entirely that the problem isn't Ole anyway, its the players and lack of quality.
It's not simply a lack of quality but the mentality of too many of their squad. Nobody could argue that a large number of Utd's squad don't have the ability of a lot of Liverpool or City players but they lack the commitment and desire that make talented players, great players. Martial and Pogba have as much ability as Sterling and De Bruyne but they're happy to play in 5 minute bursts then just have a casual jog about. They're fair weather players, when they're feeling good, in a side that's performing then they'll play but they're not prepared to put the hard yards in and push themselves when things get tough.
I said when Solkjaer first got the job, there was no more excuses for certain players. They got a free ride with Mourinho because he was always going to take the blame for their performances with Utd supporters getting upset whenever Souness said anythinb but you're now seeing more and more Utd fans and pundits like Neville turning on them. The problem is, they'll have a couple of good performances in the last few weeks of the season but it'll just be another false dawn - they'll keep letting Utd down in the long run.
I said when Solkjaer first got the job, there was no more excuses for certain players. They got a free ride with Mourinho because he was always going to take the blame for their performances with Utd supporters getting upset whenever Souness said anythinb but you're now seeing more and more Utd fans and pundits like Neville turning on them. The problem is, they'll have a couple of good performances in the last few weeks of the season but it'll just be another false dawn - they'll keep letting Utd down in the long run.