Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [1st - 4th December 2017]
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I can see why its given but at playing speed I actually think that red is harsh - but Pogba should also know better for going into an in-necessary challenge
The whole team stood up today and really proud of them, Lingard /DDG both should be motm Lingard really worked hard for both his goals but DDG for 14 saves (even if 1/2 dozen were relatively easy)
really good win even if I cant see us even getting a draw next weekend with Pogba out
The whole team stood up today and really proud of them, Lingard /DDG both should be motm Lingard really worked hard for both his goals but DDG for 14 saves (even if 1/2 dozen were relatively easy)
really good win even if I cant see us even getting a draw next weekend with Pogba out
Really Frank?
You want to look at some pro Utd twitter accounts, I think Frank's view is quite restrained in comparisonReally Frank?
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Should have been a penalty for the Iwobi tackle, not one for the Laca tackle imo, but it was like 1-2 minutes after Kos should have had a red card which would have killed the momentum of the game and made it much more difficult.
The idea it was covered when at the time he was clipped Bellerin was a good 8 yards deeper and 15 yards over from Lukaku and he would have had a clear run at goal once ahead of Kos. It was a clear as day goal scoring chance.
Arsenal play like that once we're behind in a game and very rarely struggle to do it normally. Rudderless end to the game, no real chances, the panic system of every striker and no providers on the pitch. Taking off a attacking fullback to have another striker playing out of position is pointless. Giroud kept ending up wide left and doing nothing with the ball. We needed passing and precision to unlock that defence so Wilshere on for someone realistically.
The idea it was covered when at the time he was clipped Bellerin was a good 8 yards deeper and 15 yards over from Lukaku and he would have had a clear run at goal once ahead of Kos. It was a clear as day goal scoring chance.
Arsenal play like that once we're behind in a game and very rarely struggle to do it normally. Rudderless end to the game, no real chances, the panic system of every striker and no providers on the pitch. Taking off a attacking fullback to have another striker playing out of position is pointless. Giroud kept ending up wide left and doing nothing with the ball. We needed passing and precision to unlock that defence so Wilshere on for someone realistically.
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Do you know what I'm going to say that was a harsh red. They're both going for the ball and Bellerin practically lays down in front of someone running at full pace. Pogba doesn't intentionally break his stride to stamp on him or anything, there's just suddenly a guy's leg lying down below him. It's obviously not intentional. if that is a red then why doesn't Koscielny get a red for headbutting Matic? Answer because it was an accidental clash of heads, this looks just as accidental.
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He stretches his leg much further than the preceding stride, intentional all day long. Also not convinced that his trailing leg landing on his ankle is just part of his natural stride either.
Think serious pro Utd goggles are needed to watch that and see no red.
100% this. It's not as if he's carried on his run and stood on Bellerin (which wouldn't be an excuse) - he clearly changes his stride and looks very much like his intentionally done Bellerin.
I don't think he does stretch that much more than normal
It looks far worse in slo mo, than at normal speed
Agree with this. Not intentional.
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But he doesn't go in with his studs, he's just running, you have to lift your leg to run. If Bellerin is standing up then there isn't even a foul. It's only because he lays his leg on the ground that there's any contact at all. It's a simple accident like a clash of heads.
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What's his possible motivation for doing that?
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He stretches to win the ball, which he does.
Ask him not me. Maybe he's not happy with Bellerin having a worse haircut than him. Either way, you can clearly see he changes his stride pattern - there's no way that was unintentional for me.
Obvious motivation is that Bellerin had just launched Young head over heels (which he got away lightly with)
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And you think seeing his teammate fouled would cause Pogba to intentionally stamp on someone? Has he ever done it before? We were winning and he hardly looked angry. His reaction was not the reaction of someone who was trying to hurt someone.