Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [20th - 22nd September 2019]

It's one of the few fixtures which we have a chance of winning. Not surprising they want to appease a great, wonderful fanbase. We'll lose now, though. Either that or a horrific 0-0.
 
explicit4u said:
Don't think Everton will be threatening the top 6 any time soon! Really need to see the highlights from that game cause it looks like Sheffield have had virtually nothing going forward.
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2 attempts, 1 on target, 2 goals and 3 points. Everton had way more possession but did absolutely nothing thanks to our well drilled defence. Sounds like a perfect away day for a team who’s relegation fodder. Up the Blades.
 
I've just watched MOTD that Spurs disallowed goal for offside was ridiculous. I've said it before but if it's not clear they should just go with the referees' onfield decision like in cricket. VAR technology isn't perfect you'd need a 1000fps camera, multiple angles and lots of time to study each incident to get a totally accurate result.
 
If all offside decisions are judged on exactly the same basis with the same technology as the one yesterday, then I don't really have a problem with it, as the law currently stands. The technology, even if it might be flawed in accuracy, is still more accurate than a linesman's split-second judgement call, and more importantly it can be applied in a more standardised way across all matches.
I do however think it takes something away from the player's ability to judge for themselves when they can make the 'perfect' movement to stay on or offside. Will it mean players start to hesitate more when making their run?
 
I'm really confused how they're using VAR.

Player tripped in the box, no penalty given - VAR Ref: From that angle, we can see why the ref didn't give it, no penalty.
Player dives in the box, penalty given - VAR Ref: There was another player between the referee and the diving player so his view was blocked, not a clear and obvious mistake, penalty stands.
Offside by 1mm - VAR Ref: Clear and obvious mistake, goal ruled out.

At the moment it seems like we've got blind referees on the pitch being backed up by blind referees in a studio and it's making VAR look really bad, perhaps by design.
 
The offside calls do not come under 'clear and obvious mistake' decisions. They just look at it using their technology and if it's offside then it's called offside, doesn't matter how close it was.
 
@Pigeon_Killer That's because offside aren't a matter of opinion, it's off or on. Theres no inbetween.

Theres a clear problem with VAR and subjective decisions right now though and it's not going to work until they lower the bar of what's an obvious error. Taking the Matip penalty appeal from last week as an example, I'm not sure what more would need to happen for a pen to be given. I'm sure had every PL ref seen that incident each and every one would say it's a penalty - surely that's therefore a clear error.

We saw the same thing with cricket though and eventually they lowered the bar and I'm sure that will start happening from next season.
mmj_uk said:
I've just watched MOTD that Spurs disallowed goal for offside was ridiculous. I've said it before but if it's not clear they should just go with the referees' onfield decision like in cricket. VAR technology isn't perfect you'd need a 1000fps camera, multiple angles and lots of time to study each incident to get a totally accurate result.
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The problem with this is that linos aren't flagging for things right now because of VAR. I'd have no problem with them using a threshold of x amount of centimetres before the decision can be overturned but that's going to require the linesman to actually flag for tight offsides or else every tight decision will go in the attackers favour and then won't be overturned even if they're slightly off.
 
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