Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [21st - 24th September 2012]

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How can there be a standing leg when Evans went in two-footed? Does Evans have three legs?

RvP dived in as much as Shelvey, that he won the ball cleanly makes no odds in the eyes of the laws of the game as it is still reckless to dive in.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Jesus, Shelvey wasn't the first player to make contact with the ball for one thing, Evans is, secondly Shelvey is off the ground, has all his momentum moving forward and catches Evans ON HIS STANDING LEG, on the front of that leg with that leg having no where to go to cushion the blow.
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I want you to explain to me how Shelvey is off the ground and Evans has any standing foot, when Shelvey has his back foot on the ground and Evans is in with both feet, studs up.

Just admit you were wrong and be done with it.
 
Looking at that picture Evans is the worst tackle, two footed studs first flying lunges are the worst tackles of all.

I think half the time referees just go by the outcome/reaction, in this case Evans was the one feigning injury (guilty conscience?) and Shelvey just got up and got on with it.
 
Gilly said:
The only difference is Shelvey got up whilst Evans screamed and rolled around for a while.
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Tummy said:
Getting the ball doesn't some how make bad tackles acceptable.
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No of course now, but both made a bad tackle and Evans just made a meal of it when Shelvey did the lower league get up and get on with it. It's bit grim to watch players roll about like that really.

For it to have been a legit red card both should have been off because both went in for a 50/50 to aggressively.
 
Gilly said:
So how did he get away with it then? Not even a yellow.
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Ask the referee, I didn't give the decision.

Getting the ball doesn't have a bearing on the foul. Sky like to defend bad tackles or fouls by using it as an excuse 'he got the ball'
 
grimm said:
That one camera angle != proof.

Show all the other camera angles that disprove your point.
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So an image still that shows Shelvey's foot on the floor and Evans' feet both off the floor is somehow wrong because of the angle it was taken at?

Does this one, also showing Shelvey is one-footed and Evans is two-footed make it any better?

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Is ask again why has this been dragged up again? One would have thought a mod should have known better
 
Shelvey should have been sent off though :confused: you can't really honestly, say you think he shouldn't have been sent off.

Evans should have gone too, referee made a mistake.
 
Gilly said:
Only if Evans was sent off. Evans was the worse offender.
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No. Neither of the tackles was 'worse' they were both poor.

You can't adopt the childish 'well he should be sent off too waaaa' attitude.

Shelvey's tackle deserved a red card.
Evans tackle deserved a red card.

Referee got it wrong, easy to understand given the circumstances. Shelvey went from one tackle straight in to another tackle almost jumping in to it. The referee was behind Shelvey so can't have seen the full extend of Evans tackle.
 
My point is that the worse tackle was on Shelvey, not by Shelvey, so the very fact that he was sent and the other guy got nothing is why he reacted like he did. I fully understand him losing it a little bit, he was that hard done by I could understand him being much worse and I think that should be recognised by the FA.

Shelvey's was reckless, Evans's was dangerous.

Tom84 said:
Is ask again why has this been dragged up again? One would have thought a mod should have known better
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:confused:

I'm a member of a discussion forum, is this not a discussion point? What is wrong with discussing it? There's only really drunkenmaster failing to do that, and that's because he couldn't have been more wrong in his opening gambit in response to me.

Tummy said:
Evans should have gone too, referee made a mistake.
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Sorry, nearly missed your edit. That's what I think too and it should be recognised by the FA. Being honest if Evans was a Stoke player do you think he would be banned by now?
 
Disagree. I don't think you can pin point a tackle as being 100% worse, they were both very poor tackles.

No, it doesn't excuse Shelvey from going mad. That's a loss of professionalism and lack of respect.
 
Lack of respect for whom?

I think on that day in that match in those circumstances it is understandable.

Not right, but understandable.
 
Team mates, officials and clubs.

When players fly off the handle like that and scream abuse at fellow players it's a lack of respect for both the club and team mates / players.

Players should talk to the referee about the decision, not scream and shout at them.
 
Referees aren't interested in talking to the players, and where is Evans's respect for his fellow opponent when he gets him sent off?
 
Gilly said:
Referees aren't interested in talking to the players, and where is Evans's respect for his fellow opponent when he gets him sent off?
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Referee's often are, not when players charge up to them screaming at them.

Oh, so it's ok for Shelvey to show a huge lack of respect because Evans did it first?

Two wrongs don't make a right. 'He did if first waaa'

It was a bad tackle, it probably did hurt :o impact injuries often do. I didn't see Evans asking the referee for a card.
 
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