Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [25th - 27th Feb 2012]
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Sheffield Wednesday. Brilliant
Shush.
No pingwing, it was a dreadful match.
Tummy, it was a little strange in Rawson Spring last night, Everytime they started singing it seemed like it was aimed at me! 
Edit: No I haven't, I've got work in an hour, and I've got the mother of all hangovers
I don't think you can say it was a 'beautiful' football game. It was tense, end to end and full of 'blood and thunder' but I enjoyed it. I'd be on suicide watch if we'd have lost.
Haha! I bet you were one of a very small number of blades that dared go out afterwards.
Did have many lols at the 'Praise or Grumble' lot, United fans saying it didn't matter and it was only another game after spending all week talking about crushing us.
Haha! I bet you were one of a very small number of blades that dared go out afterwards.
Did have many lols at the 'Praise or Grumble' lot, United fans saying it didn't matter and it was only another game after spending all week talking about crushing us.
Edit: No I haven't, I've got work in an hour, and I've got the mother of all hangovers
It was never going to be a beautiful game though really, we're both league 1 sides
But both teams put everything they had into it, and you bossed us in the second half. No other way to put it Yeah, all the blades I know were "on it" until we lost, then went home with the face on, haha! Was strange with all the songs, but I seemed to get away without singing them
Praise or grumble is full of idiots, the game did matter obviously. I think it mattered more for you than it did us, but to say a Sheffield derby means nothing is just stupid, IMO. The stick I'll get today alone is reason enough for it to matter!
If only we showed that much desire to win every week...
Indeed and thats my main issue with Arsenal this yr and yrs gone past when we were in pole position to win trophies but somehow managed to completely mess up our chances. It just doesnt seem we have much desire to win over other teams...god knows how we beat Spurs yesterday, i was expecting us to get tanked as we havent been playing too well ie losing to Sunderland in the FA Cup then earlier in the week getting spanked by AC.
Im hoping that our win over Spurs gives us a much needed boost for Liverpool next week then when we meet AC in the CL...would love to see us come back from 4 goals down in the second leg but being realistic...thats a miracle waiting to happen
.As long as Arsenal show some or a lot of desire to win then im happy, its when they cant be bothered that infuriates me.
because in the 2nd half, 2 players who have underperformed for you (walcott and rosicky) played blinders and our cm was bewildered. BAE is a pratt, i don't know who he thinks he is but he'd do well to remember he is a professional footballer who should play his position consitently well. he's not (who i think he thinks he is) some hip, gangster wannabe who drives a smart car and can run his arse off one week and have a bit of a stroll session the next.
king is now a liability if we get caught on the break, kaboul was towing the line a lot of the time, pointing out the gaps in our defence.
walker and kaboul are good, king was good, now he's too slow and lost mobility (not easy to admit) we can and should do better at lb than BAE if we want to continue to progress.
VDV and kranjcar are not the type of players to pull things back in a derby, they had no place on the pitch on this occassion.
arsenals lb was there for the taking, so why did we not have lennon on to try and take advantage of this?
basic, fundemental defending errors, with mix of taking our foot of the gas let arsenal back into the game. 1st goal, should've cleared our lines, 2nd goal why oh why let rvp get the ball onto his left foot?! these are basics. the game was then arsenals to take and they took it.
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That hurt, I had such high hopes my first time to see a NLD in over 7 years and we fell apart so easily. We were easily the better team going in to the fixture but we just looked bewildered in midfield. I haven't seen motd2 to see any of the highlights so can't comment on any of the refereeing incidents. I just remember him being rather card happy.
Was sat in row 18 right behind the goal when their first goal went in, such poor defending. I missed the van persie equaliser as I went to get the beers in. Much of the second half spent in silence. We were finally outsung but the Arsenal still only have 1 song !!!!!
Was sat in row 18 right behind the goal when their first goal went in, such poor defending. I missed the van persie equaliser as I went to get the beers in. Much of the second half spent in silence. We were finally outsung but the Arsenal still only have 1 song !!!!!
I've now decided it was Tottenham doing Arsenal a favour by giving them a leg up in the league
when we won the penalty, i was actually feeling a little sorry for arsenal. last time i ever do that
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It was quite a hilarious game, very entertaining and I wasn't going to post because of the usual rubbish after a big turnaround.
Walcott WAS rubbish the entire game, and the second half, even his goals were hilarious, yes good finishes, but epically awful defending to let him in and if you even look, much like his epic miscontrol in the first 60 odd minutes. For his first goal his second touch is actually a woeful fail, he miskicks it, again but it happens to go in the right direction. Second goal it was his first touch that was poor but it fluked out for him again.
His actual finishes when he got there, eventually were good. It was the 89minutes of entire crap around those two goals that make him a woeful player.
Spurs, jesus, were crap from the first minute really. Saha's goal was rather laughable in both Arsenal's defending which was mostly once again caused by Gibbs and Sagna being lazy pratts who never actually get back into position drawing our CB's across to cover and leaving us spread like we were. Even through on goal Saha contrived to give up a great chance, turn it into a poor chance and a lucky deflection.
Bale, was horrific start to finish and dived, flat out, for the penalty. He's looked much worse since he's been allowed to roam around, as someone said he's believing the hype and playing as a lone star, infact most of your offence did that yesterday, ignoring passes in the hopes of getting all the glory. THe early lead and woeful Arsenal defence I think led to all the attacking players thinking they could strole through our defence, which had they played unselfishly as a team they likely could have, and beaten us easily, but because they started wanting to score for themselves they fell apart and let us back into the game.
Sagna, ok, good goal, should have been easily defended and we would actually have been left thoroughly defenseless again at the back. Yes I'm complaining about a goal scorer, seriously how often do you see the right back staying in the box to win a headed goal, never, why, its retarded. He scored yesterday and that's great, but 99/100 times he won't score, that will be easily cleared and being so out of position will give our defence a serious problem on the break. Just because you did something utterly stupid and it worked once doesn't make it the right thing to do.
RVP, won the ball back, made the entire midfield look like fools and scored a beauty, can't really ask for more, fantastic player, has been for many years.
Rosicky, nice to see him score but his game changing appearance is being rather overstated, Modric had a mare, the offence simply weren't passing(Spurs when they pass well look almost unstoppable, in their not infrequent everyone for themselves performance look utterly toothless) or giving them any trouble.
The story is a epically awful Spurs performance not a great Arsenal comeback, yes, great to win, and maybe Spurs will fall apart and maybe we'll get fourth ahead of a pretty awful Chelsea.
I'm getting rather bored with the only time I get to enjoy a good win is because......... the other team fails to show up at all. I do remember epic Arsenal performances against other teams playing great football.
Its entertaining football but somehow, disappointing, this year the Utd/chelsea game, Arsenal/Liverpool, this Arsenal/Spurs game and so many of the other big games have been two teams really competing hard to put in their worst performance of the season rather than two top teams playing great and one coming out on top.
If Spurs had showed up I have fairly little doubt we'd have been thrashed, I'm happy with the points and the win, not the majority of the performance and can't stand the sudden "see Walcott is great" crap in the press.
This is a guy that fell over on the ball more than once in a game, let alone an entire season. Two goals, against a woefully underperforming team that offered him no challenge forgives everything, the 89 minutes of looking an utter embarrassement is forgotten instantly if you get a goal. No wonder England suck and football is going backwards.
This should have been yet another step in Walcott's release from the club, and instead will likely reaffirm Wengers retarded belief in the guy and have him sign a new massive contract Somehow that makes the scoreline, and the win, tainted.
Walcott WAS rubbish the entire game, and the second half, even his goals were hilarious, yes good finishes, but epically awful defending to let him in and if you even look, much like his epic miscontrol in the first 60 odd minutes. For his first goal his second touch is actually a woeful fail, he miskicks it, again but it happens to go in the right direction. Second goal it was his first touch that was poor but it fluked out for him again.
His actual finishes when he got there, eventually were good. It was the 89minutes of entire crap around those two goals that make him a woeful player.
Spurs, jesus, were crap from the first minute really. Saha's goal was rather laughable in both Arsenal's defending which was mostly once again caused by Gibbs and Sagna being lazy pratts who never actually get back into position drawing our CB's across to cover and leaving us spread like we were. Even through on goal Saha contrived to give up a great chance, turn it into a poor chance and a lucky deflection.
Bale, was horrific start to finish and dived, flat out, for the penalty. He's looked much worse since he's been allowed to roam around, as someone said he's believing the hype and playing as a lone star, infact most of your offence did that yesterday, ignoring passes in the hopes of getting all the glory. THe early lead and woeful Arsenal defence I think led to all the attacking players thinking they could strole through our defence, which had they played unselfishly as a team they likely could have, and beaten us easily, but because they started wanting to score for themselves they fell apart and let us back into the game.
Sagna, ok, good goal, should have been easily defended and we would actually have been left thoroughly defenseless again at the back. Yes I'm complaining about a goal scorer, seriously how often do you see the right back staying in the box to win a headed goal, never, why, its retarded. He scored yesterday and that's great, but 99/100 times he won't score, that will be easily cleared and being so out of position will give our defence a serious problem on the break. Just because you did something utterly stupid and it worked once doesn't make it the right thing to do.
RVP, won the ball back, made the entire midfield look like fools and scored a beauty, can't really ask for more, fantastic player, has been for many years.
Rosicky, nice to see him score but his game changing appearance is being rather overstated, Modric had a mare, the offence simply weren't passing(Spurs when they pass well look almost unstoppable, in their not infrequent everyone for themselves performance look utterly toothless) or giving them any trouble.
The story is a epically awful Spurs performance not a great Arsenal comeback, yes, great to win, and maybe Spurs will fall apart and maybe we'll get fourth ahead of a pretty awful Chelsea.
I'm getting rather bored with the only time I get to enjoy a good win is because......... the other team fails to show up at all. I do remember epic Arsenal performances against other teams playing great football.
Its entertaining football but somehow, disappointing, this year the Utd/chelsea game, Arsenal/Liverpool, this Arsenal/Spurs game and so many of the other big games have been two teams really competing hard to put in their worst performance of the season rather than two top teams playing great and one coming out on top.
If Spurs had showed up I have fairly little doubt we'd have been thrashed, I'm happy with the points and the win, not the majority of the performance and can't stand the sudden "see Walcott is great" crap in the press.
This is a guy that fell over on the ball more than once in a game, let alone an entire season. Two goals, against a woefully underperforming team that offered him no challenge forgives everything, the 89 minutes of looking an utter embarrassement is forgotten instantly if you get a goal. No wonder England suck and football is going backwards.
This should have been yet another step in Walcott's release from the club, and instead will likely reaffirm Wengers retarded belief in the guy and have him sign a new massive contract
Somehow that makes the scoreline, and the win, tainted.
Think its a nerves thing, he was the same on LFC TV but having spoken to him IRL he was fine one on one.
Although, it was a bit of an 'oh emm gee' moment, so maybe i never noticed
sunday will be a massive test for spurs. we bounced back from our defeat at city but that was a little different as we actually played out of our skins with the belief we could win when we got it back to 2-2. we bounced back. against arsenal, we looked totally out of ideas with 20 mins to go and i was convinced arsenal would score more than the 5 they did due to BAE going walkabout, often leading to modric or parker being deeper than he was!
goes to show the psychological side of things is a problem for us. we lost our concentration and shape and arsenal punished us. united will show the same kind of attitude.
redknapp needs to take it back to basics, keep the back 4 in a line, keep the pace on the wings and keep it tight in the middle. bale is a show man but his best show is darting down the left, pulling two men over and getting a cross in. he's not a ball winner, he's not competitive in the air in defence (arsenals first goal showed this) keep him on the left wing.
i pray redknapp goes for a midfield of bale, modric, parker (not sure when his ban comes into effect) sandro, lennon. if parker is banned, use VDV up with adebayor or adebayor on his own if parker can play. sandro needs to be running right across the line showing his presence and getting stuck in.
goes to show the psychological side of things is a problem for us. we lost our concentration and shape and arsenal punished us. united will show the same kind of attitude.
redknapp needs to take it back to basics, keep the back 4 in a line, keep the pace on the wings and keep it tight in the middle. bale is a show man but his best show is darting down the left, pulling two men over and getting a cross in. he's not a ball winner, he's not competitive in the air in defence (arsenals first goal showed this) keep him on the left wing.
i pray redknapp goes for a midfield of bale, modric, parker (not sure when his ban comes into effect) sandro, lennon. if parker is banned, use VDV up with adebayor or adebayor on his own if parker can play. sandro needs to be running right across the line showing his presence and getting stuck in.
i'm sure he is very down to earth but he is so frustratingly inconcistent. cannot afford to play the way he did against teams like arsenal, he needs to remember this. it's ok us running riot against newcastle at home, we can bring in a bit of flair but against teams like arsenal, united, chelsea, city, keep it simple and keep your players on their A game, their natural positions, not pushing forwarding, swapping sides, trying to take on half a team on their own as if it goes wrong, you'll get punished.
he pratts around too much when all he should be doing is smashing the ball away, it's not difficult.
as my previous post said, it came down to redknapps formation being pap. kranjcar against arsenal, why? bale given licence to run inside leaving modric and parker stranded when he loses the ball in cm, why? BAE pushing forward, losing or mis passing, leaving walcott with acres of space, why? this against a sub par arsenal but an arsenal who will still punish you for such mistakes. then bringing VDV on when you've got a fight on your hands? he wasn't even fit i don't think. sandro should've started, he'll run and chase down for 90 minutes and is a big presence.
one thing i've noticed about modric is that when our passing game doesn't get a chance to shine, he hasn't got a great deal else in his locker, and so he gets involved in a game where we're overwhelmed in the centre, he wasn't up to it even when sandro did come on as we'd lost all our shape and belief and had nothing on the right wing because VDV was on instead of lennon.
lennon has his critics but he was a far better option than VDV as we could've got things down the wings instead of through the centre where we were creating very little.
and to top it all off, parker got sent off and will probably miss the united game. be interesting to see how we cope.
Did Mike Dean celebrate Tottenham's opening goal against Arsenal?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fg33RXiK_io
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fg33RXiK_io
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Have to agree with DM on a lot of what he's said there, I've seen a lot today about how Arsenal are back and it was their best performance in a long time, well having not seen Arsenal play properly for a long time that may well be the case, but Spurs were woeful and it certainly made Arsenal look better than they were. Worst performance I have seen for a long long time, and in some way was probably needed as a reminder. I doubt we'll beat Man U, but I would bet we put in a far better performance.
Subs were stupid. VDV wasn't fit. Sandro looked like a headless chicken. Lennon should have been on from the start, this wasn't a game for Kranjcar. Bale NEEDS to stop diving about like Tom Daly. He also needs to get back on the left wing and $%^%^&% stay there! Defending, where do I start. Ledley looked like he needed to be put out of his misery. BAE, oh dear oh dear oh dear, positionally poor. Decision making was terrible. Gilberto in disguise? Walkers injury concerns me.
Next weekend will be interesting.
Subs were stupid. VDV wasn't fit. Sandro looked like a headless chicken. Lennon should have been on from the start, this wasn't a game for Kranjcar. Bale NEEDS to stop diving about like Tom Daly. He also needs to get back on the left wing and $%^%^&% stay there! Defending, where do I start. Ledley looked like he needed to be put out of his misery. BAE, oh dear oh dear oh dear, positionally poor. Decision making was terrible. Gilberto in disguise? Walkers injury concerns me.
Next weekend will be interesting.
Hilarious if true...kinda suspect how he hopped and skipped as the ball was going into the net
.Meh im sure hes gutted that his team got spanked by Arsenal...no amount of celebrating by him will ever change that scoreline