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People that think referee's are poor in the Premier League should watch more Championship and League One football 
Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [27 - 28th October 2012]
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People that think referee's are poor in the Premier League should watch more Championship and League One football
If it is worse than the PL I'd rather not watch football as too often it is becoming about 1 person influencing the entire game rather than any of the 22 players
Caporegime
At least they get throwins given the correct way
It's terrible, the standards are very low and have been for years. I'd honestly rather forcus on getting the referee's and extra officials to be the very best they can be before opening up any other technology debate.
People that think referee's are poor in the Premier League should watch more Championship and League One football
They were good in the champ... Only had one or two games of questionable decisions, both involving Brighton
L1 was dreadful though, that sets a standard for very average referee's
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Gerrard is lying in the press, not sure why that is nice to see.
Also as for Stoke accusations, Suarez took Everton's best player in the first half out of the game because he was the biggest threat, then he tried to take their best defender out of the game in the second. He's tried to injure two players, succeeded with one, is a vile little cheat and Everton needed protecting from LIverpool, not the other way around.
Also, it was never a goal, Gerrard and Rodgers still banging on about it being a perfectly legal goal and a great header from Coates despite the clear as day foul by Coates to make that header. Two hands both holding down the player and pushing himself up and making the header well over Jag's head because he was holding himself down and leaning well over him.
There was one team fouling with intent in that game, Liverpool, and one team who played worse, Liverpool, and one team who didn't deserve to win, Liverpool...... Gerrard is just talking complete crap to hide the fact that Everton were treated badly by the ref and deserved the win.
Everton have always had midgets in the team, loads of them, in previous losses to Liverpool when they weren't(completely of their own fault) playing 17 year old skinny kids, did Everton every complain about Liverpool being too physical?
Pathetic from Gerrard, as usual.
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At least they get throwins given the correct way
It's terrible, the standards are very low and have been for years. I'd honestly rather forcus on getting the referee's and extra officials to be the very best they can be before opening up any other technology debate.
Referee's are fallable, the best referee in the universe, a theoretical perfect ref, can never see everything, can't see everything from every angle, can NEVER get all decisions right. The best ref simply won't see major decisions throughout his career, thats simple fact. With technology a bad ref can see 99% of incidents from multiple angles and, frankly will also have a "get out of jail" card with managers/players.
Right now a ref gets a major call wrong, then managers/players get angry and accusations after games, fines, etc, etc. A ref see's that same incident, see's a replay from 5 angles in 15 seconds gets in 99% of cases a very clear answer, gets the right call. The players then know its the right decision, the manager knows this, there is no after game bad feeling, there is no "we got screwed in the last game" rubbish in the press before the next game, no managers trying to influence refs.
Technology will lead to the best AND worst ref's getting 99% of decisions right, straight away. The best ref's in the world are few and far between and won't come close to getting 99% of decisions right, ever, its impossible.
Tech is what will lead to improved ref's.
Caporegime
No, better training will lead to better refereeing and better officials. Get referees as good as possible then start talking about technology.
We all know what football is like, one referees interpretation is different to anothers.
We all know what football is like, one referees interpretation is different to anothers.
Caporegime
Gerrard is not exactly lying to the press. He's giving his opinion on the match, perhaps he hasn't seen the stats and felt that it was different from his POV?
He's wrong, but I wouldn't call it lying.
He's wrong, but I wouldn't call it lying.
Alright here we go, I was referring to Gerrard defending our players on the pitch and slamming refs of it which he has never done a good job as as captain, he is also venting, not exactly a huge lie just wrong.
Liverpool deserved to win, they scored more legitimate goals in the match than Everton, Everton goal from the throw in was ours, so that would still be 2-1 if you think our third didn't count.
Fellaini was consistently fouling Allen, let's not pretend Liverpool were only being physical for the sake of one of your Liverpool rants, in fact have you ever said anything positive about them?
Also anything Gerrard says about other teams and players should be completely ignored, he must be a massive troll saying Cole had same control as Messi
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Even if the throw in decision was incorrect there were still a couple of phases of play after that which Liverpool failed to defend was there not? Also even if Suarez's goal was ruled out incorrectly for an offside was the decision to disallow is not correct in the end given the climbing that occurred for the knock down to Suarez?
Having said that like I said at the weekend Everton were naff until they scored their first so given that wasn't deserved I do think Liverpool probably should have won the game. It's like when teams win games 5-1 or similar the losing team 9 times out of 10 dont deserve the goal they score.
Having said that like I said at the weekend Everton were naff until they scored their first so given that wasn't deserved I do think Liverpool probably should have won the game. It's like when teams win games 5-1 or similar the losing team 9 times out of 10 dont deserve the goal they score.
At the end of the day Tom, put the ball in the net more times legitimately than opposition you deserve to win, I used to go on about us deserving to win and bad luck with post last year but simply we didn't because we can't score despite probably outplaying opposition in 30 out of 38 games
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Its not automatically a foul if you make contact with a player. Torres was trying to get Evans sent off by diving which is why he got a card. If you dive in an area that would force a referee to book the defender for a foul then you are likely to get a card yourself. The flip side is that referees are much more lenient about diving and fouls in areas of the pitch that are not so vital.
If you are likely to prosper hugely from fouling or diving then you should get a card for your troubles and that is how it is working.
Soldato
Just seen a stat that with 6 goals RVP has scored more goals against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge than any other player, given Rooney has 5 that must make him at worst joint second highest 