Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [27th - 28th August 2011]

explicit4u said:
Wenger out! NOW!
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I think I just heard DM's head explode!
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Why, again, the reason I've been complaining for 6 years is THIS, I saw this coming every game for 6 years, we've been getting worse every season, the squad has been slowly replaced from title winning players, to players who some would struggle in League 1.

This is the team Wenger built, purely on his own, all his own choices, and he's been building this team for YEARS while people complained I had no idea what I was talking about.

Our injured and suspended players, asides Vermaelen and Wilshire, none of them would have done better. Song WOULD have been sent off in this game if he was around, so would Frimpong, 15 good minutes from Gervinho and a few hundred terrible minutes, so far I'm leaning towards him being terrible.

Mark1989 said:
I bet Arsenal are glad for the international break if anything, There Boo`ed off not a surprise. So to all Arsenals fans what would you do to fix it besides sign 11 new players
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Well, who would you sign, put yourself in M'vila's place, decent side, building, another year, making good money and probably several big sides could be in for me, or go to the sinking ship Arsenal with a manager who is sure to get fired in the next 6 months, if not the next 6 days.

Who can Wenger get who isn't a crap player looking for a big pay cheque, answer is, basically no one at all.

We NEED a new manager, but 3 years ago a new manager would have 4-5 crap players to get rid of, and a few signings and be straight into a title run. A new manager today needs, frankly 10-11 players MINIMUM, 5-6 we need right now, and we STILL need to get rid of those 5-6 players we've needed to get rid of for years who are dragging the team down.

Pathetic, shambles, defensively, it should be clear to anyone with even half a brain that Wenger has literally no clue how to organise a defense.



As for Utd, its VERY hard to tell how good they were, because honestly, I think most of the league would have battered that team we put out today. Young was freaking fantastic though, Rooney MOTM, not for me. Young got a bunch of assists, his first goal was outstanding and helped turn the game from close-ish to "uh oh we're screwed", his second goal was awesome aswell.

Young, a gooner, who we could have got years ago while Utd/Chelsea weren't looking for wingers.

To the Utd fans who weren't sure Young would be good, bite me, without question he was always going to be brilliant. he's currently Englands best player and has been Utd's best player over their 3 games, EASILY their best player. He'd have been worth it at 30mil let alone 16mil.
 
Adrianr said:
It's futile. There is nothing DM can say about that match that the team sheet and scoreline doesn't say clearly enough. On the contrary to his usual novellas, a simple "Arsenal are a mess", would be far more succinct.
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THe issue is I rarely talk about the game, but ONGOING issues that have been ongoing for YEARS now, when we win, these things happen, and when we lose these same problems are almost always the reason.

I keep saying it, its not the losing, or the winning, its the way we play, the mistakes we've failed to correct for years and most fundamental as always, Wenger seems to have no clue that half our players are completely rubbish, he thinks they are great. He plays Song and Walcott if they are fit, despite both being rubbish. Song scores a couple times last season and Arsenal fans were talking up how great he was, while I was pointing out how his mistakes cost us time and time and time again.

I've always been thinking long term and how the general decline, and how Wenger's ignorance will turn us from a top four into a midtable team, Arsenal fans see a few wins, and getting top four, and ignore the problems and support Wenger has he has slowly dismantled a great team over 6 years, its not a shell of what it was. RVP isn't even close to the player he used to be, in the current squad, we're down to just about Verm, RVP, the keeper and Wilshire being the only ones who should stay.
 
The saddest thing is I don't think this result, or any of the ones which are going to follow it (can't see us winning a single game with the midfield being the state it is atm) will end up with Wenger's head rolling. How much worse can he make the team before something gets done?
 
Still they have great respect for each other as competitors and I imagine he has great sympathy considering his situation.
 
Arsenal haven't got enough time to get the players Wenger wants in now. Can't sack Wenger now because who would replace him, and who ever it was would still have them players.

Going to be a long season for Arsenal.
 
drunkenmaster said:
THe issue is I rarely talk about the game, but ONGOING issues that have been ongoing for YEARS now, when we win, these things happen, and when we lose these same problems are almost always the reason.

I keep saying it, its not the losing, or the winning, its the way we play, the mistakes we've failed to correct for years and most fundamental as always, Wenger seems to have no clue that half our players are completely rubbish, he thinks they are great. He plays Song and Walcott if they are fit, despite both being rubbish. Song scores a couple times last season and Arsenal fans were talking up how great he was, while I was pointing out how his mistakes cost us time and time and time again.

I've always been thinking long term and how the general decline, and how Wenger's ignorance will turn us from a top four into a midtable team, Arsenal fans see a few wins, and getting top four, and ignore the problems and support Wenger has he has slowly dismantled a great team over 6 years, its not a shell of what it was. RVP isn't even close to the player he used to be, in the current squad, we're down to just about Verm, RVP, the keeper and Wilshire being the only ones who should stay.
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Its very hard to see you as anything other than a visionary after a game like today.
 
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