Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [27th September - 1st October 2014]

Chelsea v Villa was pretty dull today, there was no urgency or needle by either side at all, it was almost a 'Boxing Day' game.
Perhaps after going 1 up reasonably early the instructions were to take it easy with a couple of big games coming up next week.
 
I thought as much at the time but seeing on MOTD Man Utd want a player sent off for a trip on Rafael basically on the edge of their own box when it was a small tap on the heel of the player and trying to suggest its the same as properly kicking out at a player, catching them almost on the hip...... lol.
 
Having seen Pelle's goal, also amazing. It's rare to see a player take a touch keep it in the air and score with a second touch on the volley, then two fantastic goals in the same game.

QPR great goal but Southampton could really have been out of sight then and well from highlights at least could have had another two.
 
Just watched it now - awesome goal.

E: Diego Costa looks like he could be rested a bit with a possible injury developing.
 
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Burnley have been dreadful. God knows why they bought Juktiewicz.

Yea, WBA have been the far better side..

Just had a look at Wiki, Jukey was 2.25m..didn't realise he was that much. I thought he went for like 500k
 
You can't win promotion to the Premier League and then spend what Burnley have, it just doesn't compute really. Shame for them.
 
You can't win promotion to the Premier League and then spend what Burnley have, it just doesn't compute really. Shame for them.

To be fair I think they didn't spend last time and stayed up for two (?) seasons. I think you can get away with it for a season then you have to spend. Norwich did similar when they came up and then spent badly in the 2nd season and got relegated. The problem with Burnley they massively overachieved last season, started as relegation candidates and they Ings on fire which he isn't this season.

Leicester signed Ulloa and Cambiasso and haven't looked out of place so far.
 
3 - 0 now, it's all over.

You can't win promotion to the Premier League and then spend what Burnley have, it just doesn't compute really. Shame for them.

You also can't buy a new whole team and not give the guys who got you promoted a chance. Would be harsh on them. It's definitely a bit of a catch 22 in that situation.
 
To be fair I think they didn't spend last time and stayed up for two (?) seasons. I think you can get away with it for a season then you have to spend. Norwich did similar when they came up and then spent badly in the 2nd season and got relegated. The problem with Burnley they massively overachieved last season, started as relegation candidates and they Ings on fire which he isn't this season.

Leicester signed Ulloa and Cambiasso and haven't looked out of place so far.

I agree about Leicester, but Ulloa was obviously well scouted before they spent that money and it's paid off, and Cambiasso is a very wise addition.

Burnley were also lacking squad depth in the Championship, weren't they? So I think they needed more work than Leicester to start with.
 
You can't win promotion to the Premier League and then spend what Burnley have, it just doesn't compute really. Shame for them.

Doesn't compute? Teams that spend to stay up general lose loads and loads of money in the end trying to stay up and most go back down anyway. Buying players who all want premier league wages reducing any profit to almost nothing.

Think about how teams leave the championship, you can be almost debt free with a wage bill of say 3-20mil(with the odd mentalists like QPR or other relegated teams with wage bills above 60mil). You move up to the premier league and your revenue jumps from say 5-30mil up to around the 100mil mark with pretty much 50mil+ of tv money, increased sponsorship deals, increased ticket prices. If you didn't increases costs at all you'd rake in 40-50mil of profit.

That is the key point, if you don't increase costs you can make a 40mil profit....... doesn't compute why a team wouldn't spend? A promoted team with the lowest increase in costs can become the most profitable team in the premiership. Okay lets say you get relegated, you have 40-50mil in your pocket, drop down, you don't have huge transfer spend to deal with, you don't have premier league wages on the players you didn't sign so you're right back to your normal championship income and spending but with 40mil in the bank to secure the future of the club.

A team that yoyo's between championship/premier league, with the parachute payments as well, could end up the most profitable team in England. Hell, if you could manage that over a few years, you could end up with enough to build a new stadium or have the funds in place for a genuine run and attempt to become a long term premiership team.

Swansea have been in the top 3 or 4 premiership teams for profit since they got promoted and I forget who it was, may have been Burnley last time, or Wolves maybe, ended up with a tiny wage bill, large profits and went down with a huge amount of cash (for a now championship club). There are also owners who would just happily pocket 40mil every few years, not a bad business that. With the tv money increasing so drastically and the gap between prem/championship being bigger than ever there is even more reason to treat a year in the premiership as a financial cash cow rather than really attempting to stay up.
 
Teams for tonight:

Stoke: Begovic, Bardsley, Shawcross, Wilson, Muniesa, Whelan, Nzonzi, Diouf, Adam, Moses, Crouch.

Newcastle: Krul, Janmaat, Williamson, Coloccini, Dummett, Tiote, Colback, Sissoko, Cabella, Gouffran, Riviere.
 
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