Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [2nd - 7th December 2011]

Fulham scored, we didn't. We can make up as many excuses as we want but it won't hide the fact we've spent a lot of money and should be winning these games without having to rely on refereeing decisions.

Wholesale changes needed in January starting with Carroll and Downing being shown the door.

Yes we did, it was disallowed.

Downing was fine when he came on.
 
The best thing about Andy is that if he plays his cards right, he's got a much longer shelf life than your average striker. Speed isn't a key part of his game, so he'll be able to take advantage of his talents well into his thirties. I realize that these days it's unlikely that players will spend so long at one club, but really there's no reason why he couldn't score 15-25 goals for us in the 2021-22 season
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It was offside, but again probably 50/50 with the benefit. If Fulham had scored the exact goal you'd be saying how offside it was :p just like I am with the red.

I'm watching on another channel, not Sky. They've just shown the incident again and it's onside. It's close but Hangeland's right leg is playing him onside.
 
Do Fulham fans never sing? Still being outsung when 1-0 up and people racing out of the stands on the 89th minute? Why the **** bother going.
 
Fulham's GD will come in handy this season, compared to pretty much all the teams around us, it's a lot better! Shame our luck will run out against Utd/Chelsea coming up in a few games probably..
 
Ripping into the ref and linesman on lfc tv.
Evidence of both being miles behind the play. How can u make key decisions when your 60 yards away all the time
 
That is more of a red than Fabio/Rafael's supposed one was that some Liverpool fans keep going on about

That's simply ridiculous. Rafael lunged in 2 footed off the ground. Spearing's made a side footed tackle and his momentum has taken his legs off the ground.
 
That's simply ridiculous. Rafael lunged in 2 footed off the ground. Spearing's made a side footed tackle and his momentum has taken his legs off the ground.

If that was one of our players you'd be saying the exact same thing as me, that it was a red. Apparently Murphy out for a few matches now too :(
 
If that was one of our players you'd be saying the exact same thing as me, that it was a red. Apparently Murphy out for a few matches now too :(

I can partly understand why the ref has given it; he's seen the end of the tackle and it looks like he's lunged in 2 footed but you only have to look at the youtube video on the last page, it's his momentum that's taken him off the ground.
 
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If the foul continues into the box then it's a penalty. It did continue into the box so was a penalty.

He's made the tackled side-footed and his momentum has brought his feet off the ground. He didn't jump in 2 footed on the player.

Both these are entirely wrong, a foul committed outside the box has to be played on and ANOTHER foul committed inside the box, it wasn't a penalty.

Secondly, his momentum didn't bring his feet off the ground, he never hit the ground before making contact, almost a foot off the ground, with studs directly into a players shin. Sorry that's a red card every single time, not being two footed doesn't make it any less of a red card.

I don't think he meant to but its reckless and that is what makes it a red card. The only difference between that and someone doing an obvious jump into a challenge, is how it looked, watch that replay carefully, his arm is just about touching the ground as he makes contact, but the full force of all his momentum is going through his studs into the player, and not on the ground but almost a foot off the ground. It didn't obviously look like a red card at first, but with the replay its clear as day.

The offside, who knows, the Suarez "penalty" is so far from blatant its a joke, before anyone touches him, he moves towards Hangeland and puts his arm around him, his arm being up would have prevented any way of getting past Hangeland, he played for it, and he does it every game, he did it later to Senderos as well, he runs past a player, puts his arm around them and takes both down.

Senderos should have been off though, two yellows, the not a penalty one, and they didn't show the replay but when Caroll slipped then Senderos fell over, on the way back to goal he pulled Carroll to the ground, cynical foul, second yellow. Dempsey should have been off as well, and those ridiculous situations where a ref absolutely wrongly gives both players a yellow, it was quite clearly a red for Dempsey and nothing for Bellamy, who did nothing but back away, how you can get a yellow for that I'll never know.
 
We need to spend heavily in January. The Downing and Carroll partnership hasn't worked and doesn't look likely to and we need goals. This is the fewest we've scored in all but two Premier League seasons up to this point, that's not good enough for Liverpool.

Really hope Villa don't improve and we can pinch Bent.
 
I can partly understand why the ref has given it; he's seen the end of the tackle and it looks like he's lunged in 2 footed but you only have to look at the youtube video on the last page, it's his momentum that's taken him off the ground.

Yeah, but the momentum was dangerous, it was too much of a lunge which made it dangerous.

Fulham rode their luck today, but we were definitely due some! Glad to see us up at 13th now too, was getting a bit gloomy with having to play Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea/Utd before/around christmas!
 
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