Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [8th - 12th September 2017]
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Poor Ox, 4 - 0 pasting, moves team, 4(or more) - 0 pasting.
Haha, I was just thinking that as well.
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It's rare that a player karate kicks a keeper in the head and I'd very much argue that it's rarely a red. As for little options, ridiculous assessment and using Neville chatting **** to defend Mane is pretty ridiculous to. Caragher is pointing out how and why Neville is wrong, Neville has been terrible as a pundit for a couple of years. He started off well but is just a cliche ridden moron now.
If Ederson hit Mane and missed the ball it may well have been called a foul, but if you think it's the same thing you're as daft as Neville. Mane caught Ederson with his full weight in just his foot, Mane jumped in the air, he had his leg straight and his studs showing at head height. If Ederson hit Mane, it would have been pretty much full contact, chest to chest, leg to leg maybe as well. That makes for a monumentally LESS dangerous and less forceful impact. Same force being transferred via just the studs on your feet or across your entire chest, you're talking about a night and day difference, there is zero comparison in terms of the force of the impact.
Even so a genuine collision happens, contact is unavoidable, you sign up for football knowing you can get caught, but you also sign up knowing that being kicked in the face by someone running full speed and jumping with his leg outstretched is dangerous, a red card and 99% of players won't ever try such a tackle.
The idea that his focus is on the ball is null and void, is he taking part in a competitive football game, yes, thus he already knows someone is 99.9% likely competing for that ball.
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lovely goal there
Well we got smashed, red card killed us off up to that point we looked well in the game after we just fell apart.
Klopp lack of desire to sort this defence is an utter joke I don't care what people say we're shocking at it and klavan is utter tripe.
Klopp lack of desire to sort this defence is an utter joke I don't care what people say we're shocking at it and klavan is utter tripe.
A game to forget for us. Everything that could go against us did. It didn't get much of a mention but I thought there was a foul in the build-up to their first goal - Fernandinho nudges Wijnaldum under the ball. Our failure to take our chances and naivety to not get Otamendi sent off then really came back to bite us on the arse when Mane gets sent off.
Being a goal down and then a man down vs City is about as hard as it gets. Their fullbacks end up with complete freedom to bomb forward and with them, KdB, Silva and their front 2, you're playing against 6 forwards. Sit back and most probably still get picked off or try to get back into the game and leave yourself wide open.
Being a goal down and then a man down vs City is about as hard as it gets. Their fullbacks end up with complete freedom to bomb forward and with them, KdB, Silva and their front 2, you're playing against 6 forwards. Sit back and most probably still get picked off or try to get back into the game and leave yourself wide open.
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Deserved.
Regardless of the red card that was a gutless, lazy and poorly managed performance.
Lack of a DM ahead of that defence? Truly embarrassing.
TAA and Klavan need to get bombed from the CL squad for that.
Regardless of the red card that was a gutless, lazy and poorly managed performance.
Lack of a DM ahead of that defence? Truly embarrassing.
TAA and Klavan need to get bombed from the CL squad for that.
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Thank god its ower, a 5-0 thrashing
I didn't defend Mane. I explained why that sort of red card is always seen as controversial by lots of supporters.
And had Mane got there first and Ederson smashed into him, why wouldn't that have been considered endangering the opponent? He's came flying out head/shoulder first - at the speed he was travelling it was just as likely to cause injury as Mane was.
Maybe some will view this is stupid, what's more dangerous part of someone's foot or a heavy head smashing you?
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If Mane get to the ball first and then gets taken out by the keeper in all likelihood the keeper is going to see red
I'm not overly fussed about which is more dangerous. If you're strictly following the letter of the law regarding endangering the opponent then both the attacker and keeper are risking getting sent off in that situation. At the speed both are travelling, if they don't win the ball and end up smashing into the other, they're risking injuring them.
As a supporter, whether of the defensive or attacking side, you're not going to be happy if your player pulls out of that challenge. Mane has to go for the ball because he has a goal on a plate for him if he gets there and equally Ederson has to go for it to stop Mane having a one on one.
I'd be surprised. We've seen plenty of examples of the attacking player clattering into the keeper like Mane did without being sent off let alone defenders doing it.
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Not sure what's funnier, the result or Neville and Tyler spending the entire match trying to make out it wasn't a red card and legions of simpletons taking their word for it. They didn't even mention that the goalie was receiving oxygen and looking in a very bad way until about 5 minutes later.... too obsessed with the great injustice bestowed upon Mane.
Even Carragher knows it was a red.
Even Carragher knows it was a red.
^ that is irrelevant though.