Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [8th - 13th December 2017]

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We are crap, it shouldn’t have come down to a soft penalty. So much bitterness when the reality is you couldn’t put to bed an absolutely terrible Everton team. I get it though, you have to get to top 4 at any cost this year or you will lose players. I just don’t see that happening. Not with Klopp.

To be honest, I dont think we would lose players if we finished outside of the top 4 this year. Only Coutinho but then he will be going irrespective of whether we finish in the top4, cant think of any others who have indicated a likelihood of leaving if no top 4 finish.
 
Lovren has plenty to be blamed for throughout his time here but he did nothing wrong today (defensively)

Of course, we benefit from them routinely (stoke and Moscow) but that doesn’t make it ‘even itself out’. Refereeing decisions shouldn’t be a factor and Liverpool did enough to stay 1-0 ahead at that time.

Someone adjusting to make contact with you isn’t something you should be aware of other than laughing at them as they fall, if anything Lovrens path has been impeded.

He did wrong, a good defender wouldn't raise his arm and even gently shove or place it on an attackers back when he is ahead of him, I hate diving so weather he dived or not lovren made the choice easy by doing what he did.

Lovren needs to go, carragher made a point awhile ago our defence is mostly still Rodgers players who weren't good enough then and aren't now.

I don't fully rate Matip but when he is back Matip and gomez should be the centre backs and lovren can **** off
 
That's a lot of rubbish. A better defender would have backed off and allowed Calvert Lewin to control the ball, turn and get a shot off?

If you watch it again without the blinkers on he lifts his arms and shoves him regardless of whether Lewin moves towards him.
 
He did wrong, a good defender would raise his arm and even gently shove or place it on an attackers back when he is ahead of him, I hate diving so weather he dived or not lovren made the choice easy by doing what he did.

Lovren needs to go, carragher made a point awhile ago our defence is mostly still Rodgers players who weren't good enough then and aren't now.

I don't fully rate Matip but when he is back Matip and gomez should be the centre backs and lovren can **** off

That first paragraph is a load of nonsense lol
 
Ok, so next derby up. Now, I dont particularly dislike Utd or City but I do absolutely despise Mourinho so anything that upsets him and causes his life to be that bit worse is fantastic for me, so I'll be cheering City on for this one
 
If you watch it again without the blinkers on he lifts his arms and shoves him regardless of whether Lewin moves towards him.
He doesn't shove him. If somebody steps in front of you it's a natural reaction to put your arm out. There's no push, he dived. Just like with Ramsey's dive vs Burnley - defenders will put their arm out in that sort of situation or to feel where the attacker is 20 times per game.
 
He doesn't shove him. If somebody steps in front of you it's a natural reaction to put your arm out.

I'm not going to bother replying to you anymore as the bias is clear, there's already videos on youtube of it and it's quite evident he shoves him, he doesn't just lift his arms to take the weight.
 
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