Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [9th - 12th December 2011]

Doesn't help but certainly shows your immaturity.

Well you labelling our fans awful is of course going to rile anyone up because of course i am going to defend the fans that went.


Ironing? check the stats etc that say just how good our fans were when we were ****. You clearly don't know them.

Statistics to show how good fans are? Have you been bringing a decibel meter to your games for the past 10 years?

Just grow up the two of you, "mega fail" really?

City fans singing to Chelsea ' Where were you when you were ****'?

Yes, mega fail!

Well you labelling our fans awful is of course going to rile anyone up

Despite you being the one who called Stamford Bridge a morgue.

Of course i am going to defend the fans that went

Because you have a good idea of how good those fans were how?

No, just the sheer amount of fans that still attended games even when we were in the low divisions puts to bed you saying that it is irony we sang that song.

Oh God...it was YOUR fans that initiated the chant.

Chelsea undeniably had a better fan-base before the takeover.

Just FAIL.

and the chance i do get to go Chelsea it is always full of tourists and day visitors.

So much for being 17 and not being able to get enough points.

i am 17, how can you expect me to have near 6000 points for a ticket which is IIRC what the tickets sold out at. Never mind the price!


I'd put a hefty amount of cash on you having never been to Chelsea and you basing your opinion on stereotype.

Anyway, I'm going bed, some of us have work in the morning.
 
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Just grow up the two of you, "mega fail" really?
I was just highlighting how immature it was when i posted it, hence me talking about his age also.


Anyways back on topic, unlucky not to come away with a draw after a great first 30mins but unfortunately we didn't take our chances nor get the ref on our side. Chelsea out played us slightly in the 2nd and Lescott showed how bad he can be to give away the pen which was excellently dispatched.

Bounce back against Arsenal i hope.



Statistics to show how good fans are? Have you been brining a decibel meter to your games for the past 10 years?
No, just the sheer amount of fans that still attended games even when we were in the low divisions puts to bed you saying that it is irony we sang that song.

It is well known that City fans have always supported City through thick and thin, regularly commented on. Chelsea haven't exactly been through the same process and the chance i do get to go Chelsea it is always full of tourists and day visitors.

Nothing about decibels but Maine Road used to rock every game from what i remember.
 
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lolgustov

Someone needs to mention he's a tea boy, to really get the fireworks going!

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Unfortunately I fell asleep at half time, but any Tottenham-esque controversy?

lol Moses. logs on here just to call me a tea-boy. Aren't you COOL

Somebody should tell you I got a promotion and am now earning £1700 a month at 22. Hardly tea boy wage.
 
Nothing wrong with that but surely you would agree that your opinion on 'atmosphere' isn't going to valued very highly if you're commenting from home.

BUT TEH SKY AUDIO?

No, I agree you can't comment at all, just hate the way some people in here feel superior because they waste their Saturday afternoons / Wednesday evenings and hard-earned cash on standing in the freezing cold rain with a worse view than me watching from my comfy sofa :)
 
I'm still unsure why Chelsea started with this high line yet again. Between the two Manchester clubs they should have conceded about 15 goals whilst using it. And AVB seemed to suggest it took the players themselves to finally sort it out.. :confused:
Still, an exciting game! :) I think Chelsea showed their greater experience, some of the lack of discipline from the City players will have to improve in future big games.
 
*pats head*


At the end of the day it was Clattenberg that cost us the match, we played well before the sending off and would have held out i think even with 10 men if Clattenberg wasn't hell bent on doing one better than Atwell.

Shows how far we have come when Chelsea fans celebrate like the PL has just landed after they get a narrow victory against a 10 man team and were very lucky to do so.

Chelsea started gaining the upper hand well before that. About 30minutes into the game Chelsea sorted themselves out. Even with 11 men City looked under the cosh, though yes no real big chances were created. Of course Chelsea were going to celebrate, a much needed win to remain in the title challenge and remain in the top 4.
 
What makes you say we deserved to beat City but not either Norwich or Swansea? We weren't unfortunate with any major decisions in the City game and had less opportunities to score (and City had more chances to score themselves than either Norwich or Swansea did) than against Swansea or Norwich. The only thing can be expectations; we weren't expected to be the better side against City but were expected to comfortably beat Norwich and Swansea. If you look at the games without those expectations though, we were closer to winning/deserved to win the Norwich and Swansea games more.

As for the Ferdinand red; whether you believe Adam could have stayed on his feet or not, it doesn't change the offense made by Ferdinand. He should have been given a 2nd booking. And don't try to compare Enrique having the ball kicked at him for less than a yard away and the ball deflecting onto his arm to Evans blocking a header from 5 yards away with out stretched arms (and if anything moving his arm towards the ball).

Evans didn't have an outstretched arm at all, it hit him on the elbow and he made no movement towards the ball either, Enrique handled the ball twice with his arm unfortunate deflection or not. Neither were penalties. As for Rio no player should ever get booked let alone sent off for a challenge whereby the receiving player has to dive to go to ground. You can continue to argue both and feel hard done by all you want though by all means.

As for why I feel you deserved to beat City but not the others; like it or not the level of opposition does make a difference of course it does. For teams like Swansea and Norwich to go to Anfield and play the way they did meant they were deserving of a point in the end. Liverpool didn't do enough to win those games hence you didn't. As for the City game well clearly you didn't do enough to win that game either but the fact City who had only dropped 2 points in the league prior to that game and other than a good start looked totally inept throughout much of the match and were basically hanging on at the end it's not that hard to grasp that you were more deserving of a win in that game against that level of opposition than the other games which were games you were expected to win but failed to perform.

The way I see it is the best teams make their own luck. The teams that simply weren't up to scratch though look back and are the ones that constantly moan about referees and penalties that weren't given and not being given the lucuracy of playing against less than 11 opposition players. That goes to any set of fans not just the Liverpool ones (although you lot do moan about decisions more than any other set of fans on these forums)
 
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Evans didn't have an outstretched arm at all, it hit him on the elbow and he made no movement towards the ball either, Enrique handled the ball twice with his arm unfortunate deflection or not. Neither were penalties. As for Rio no player should ever get booked let alone sent off for a challenge whereby the receiving player has to dive to go to ground. You can continue to argue both and feel hard done by all you want though by all means.

Evans arms were outstretched and the ball's hit him as he's moving his arms back towards his body, go watch the incident. Enrique's had the ball hit at him from a yard away and it deflected onto his arm. One could have easily been given a penalty, the other was never a penalty in a million years.

And whether Adam could have stayed on his feet or not (and you can't say for certain that he couldn't), Ferdinand's still tripped him as he's breaking into the penalty area. It was a regulation yellow card (Lucas was booked for the same thing on the half way line).

As for why I feel you deserved to beat City but not the others; like it or not the level of opposition does make a difference of course it does. For teams like Swansea and Norwich to go to Anfield and play the way they did meant they were deserving of a point in the end. Liverpool didn't do enough to win those games hence you didn't. As for the City game well clearly you didn't do enough to win that game either but the fact City who had only dropped 2 points in the league prior to that game and other than a good start looked totally inept throughout much of the match and were basically hanging on at the end it's not that hard to grasp that you were more deserving of a win in that game against that level of opposition than the other games which were games you were expected to win but failed to perform.

The way I see it is the best teams make their own luck. The teams that simply weren't up to scratch though look back and are the ones that constantly moan about referees and penalties that weren't given and not being given the lucuracy of playing against less than 11 opposition players. That goes to any set of fans not just the Liverpool ones (although you lot do moan about decisions more than any other set of fans on these forums)

My personal opinion is that the only time you can deserve to win a game that you don't win is when you've been robbed by the officials. However as you said we deserved to beat City, by that reckoning we deserved to win all those others too (we were on the wrong side of poor decisions in all but the Swansea and City games anyway).

The standard of the opposition makes no difference. The fact of the matter is that you don't need to play as well to beat Swansea (and to deserve to beat them too) as you would City. We could have put in a near perfect performance against City but had they played to their best too, we may have easily lost the game and could have had no complaints either. On the other hand, had we put away 1 of the chances we created against Swansea, I don't think anybody could have said we didn't deserve to win that game based on the balance of play or chances created. Despite not playing to our best, we were still the better side. I'm not sure why you're including the Norwich game in this because we absolutely battered them but somehow only scored once.

On the City/Utd comparison specifically. We were certainly the better side from the moment we equalised against City and dominated the last 20 minutes but City were excellent for the first 30 and even after that were a big threat on the break. In the Utd game, the first 45 minutes were pretty even however we created the only clear chance, and then we were the better side throughout the 2nd half and dominated the end of the game just like vs City. The biggest difference was that you offered absolutely no threat to us and I can't remember you having a single chance other than the goal from the corner. Just on the balance of play and chances created, we were just as deserving to beat you as we would have been City and when you take into account the decisions that went your way, we were even more deserving to beat you imo.
 
exactly. i'm sure the commentator tonight said that chelsea had the same points before tonights match as they did this time last season and were topping it. zzzzzz oh look, another chelsea and united battle for the title. the league needed a shake up and it's certainly got it. a lot of people dislike city and their financial clout, i'm not a massive fan of it either but the league needs competition and keeping other clubs on their toes!

Another? Last year, the majority of the season it was between arsenal and united for the title.

If you think the PL is boring having same top 4 teams then what does that make la liga and the scottish league then?

Also, top 4 was tweaked a bit a few seasons ago when spurs finish 4th :rolleyes: Yea usual top 4 eh..

At least spurs got to teh top 4 on pure merits. not some blooming rich suger daddy buying there club and throwing 600m to get there:rolleyes:

Cant believe you think the PL needed a shake up. IMO it diddnt. it was already excited.
 
Didn't he say that he posts more when Chelsea lose, as opposed to when they win? I'd like to question the accuracy of that statement. :p

I know :D

Love the way he started talking about how much he earns to a 17 year old kid still in College and then said it was easy to see that Biz was a kid :D hahahahaha. Then when Moses piped up with some questions he disappeared :p

Brilliant. Couldn't write it.
 
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