Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [Sunday 13th May 2012]

Tevez has a great sense of judgement:

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It's not the way to celebrate during the victory parade.
 
I saw it was meant in relation to Ferguson saying 'not while I'm around' in regard to City winning the league. Not really offensive
 
And they'd all been drinking, I'd've thought... and it'll be a sign passed from the crowd, rather than one they made.

Is that enough excuses, for the person who said I'd be excusing it?

I don't think he needs an excuse.
 
Also, I'd disagree about the lower teams thing too. I think the monetary gap between the bottom of the PL and the Championship is way too much now, considering the skill level isn't actually that big. What you've now got is a load of clubs who can't easily cope with the financial cost of relegation, even with parachute payments. So that when they drop down to the league below, they're forced to get rid of the majority of their players before they can even think of signing anyone. But those same players are now expecting PL-level wages, so they will just go back and hoover up the wages of whoever's been promoted/is still there, whilst not actually being much better than the players getting paid half as much as them.

This is exactly what happened to us (Southampton) and to a much more extreme extent of Portsmouth! (35k a week on Tal Ben Haim being the prime example).

Its frustrating to watch because so many people believe the FM dream of one or two "premiership quality" players on big wages can bring success...

The champions league distorts it further by offering players a dream league to compete in and over the top wages so theirs less competition.

The turn over rules in a few years should help the problem a bit (38m for a player on 200k per week should no longer be realistic) but there has to be a realism attached to the football dream at some point that money is not infinite in the football world
 
Clubs need to make sure they cover that kind of thing in player contracts. If relegated, then wage will drop to x or whatever. Seems sensible to me.

If the player isn't happy with that then that is their own perogative, but it doesn't really show dedication if they presume the worst.
 
In response to Fergie's "Over my dead body" quote I think you'll find, yes very bad taste but in response to a specific quote

I keep hearing that but how exactly unless you're the idiot that made the banner in the first place know the context behind it?

Some people can't take a joke.

it's a joke to insinuate death of another? If I put in my signature RIP MooMoo444 that'd be a joke and we'd all **** ourselves laughing?
 
it's a joke to insinuate death of another? If I put in my signature RIP MooMoo444 that'd be a joke and we'd all **** ourselves laughing?

If you take it out of context and blow it out of proportion then yeah, it might be seen as bad taste.

However given that at the start of the season Fergie himself said 'Not while I'm around' or words to that effect, I don't see any harm in it.

I can see Fergie seeing that, and laughing, rather than thinking to himself 'that's a bit harsh..'.

By the way, put that in your sig if you like. :)
 
Just proves even more that most footballers are disrespectful, disloyal, odious twerps and Tevez is the worst of the lot.

Well not really, i think that honour goes to Terry without a doubt:p

But its in bad taste what Tevez did ie with the RIP Fergie placard. Not a good way to fix your image imho.

Tevez is hardly one to talk though, after the **** he put Cith through with his hissy fit during the CL.
 
Blackpool, afaik, didn't jump on the "we're in the premier league so lets triple everyones wages" bandwagon, and there is no rule that means being promoted means you have to do so. Likewise everyone SHOULD sign contracts whereby relegation has a MASSIVE< monumental wage drop.

The big problem for the teams that have gone down is established teams that didn't consider relegation, Pompie, Leeds, Newcastle, Southampton, they all went down as relatively established teams that no one thought about the consequences of relegation.

Not all, but a lot of the championship teams that come up do consider relegation and considering the contracts most of their championship players are on its not hard to get them to sign big pay rises that also come with relegation clauses.

Pompie were just a joke, they were mismanaging their money even from staying in the premier league in terms of wages, let alone being relegated.

It's not that big a deal, and the big difference is TV money. There isn't a whole lot to be done about it, the premier league negotiates its deal and has no reason to help the championship by giving it money. People don't really want to watch the championship over the premiership, the viewers and therefore the money just isn't there.

Most countries national sport has a HUGE disparity between top and lower leagues, its not new. There is really only so much of any one sport people can watch, and people will always choose the best/highest quality league, that won't ever change.
 
Well not really, i think that honour goes to Terry without a doubt:p

But its in bad taste what Tevez did ie with the RIP Fergie placard. Not a good way to fix your image imho.

Tevez is hardly one to talk though, after the **** he put Cith through with his hissy fit during the CL.

I take it you meant Mancini and not Tevez. One of those two picked a fight and shouted and "threw a hissy fit" on camera with three separate players during a match he was the manager for, his team was getting creamed and his tactics and substitutions were a joke. The other one warmed up, sat on the bench ready to come on and got screamed at when he told the manager he was already warmed up.

Then when Mancini LIED in an interview afterwards, Tevez did nothing, then when the investigation found that Tevez didn't refuse to play in the game, he did nothing, then when Mancini said he'd never play for City ever again, he went home to play golf, then when Mancini was desparate Tevez exchanged one apology for 200-250k a week........
 
I take it you meant Mancini and not Tevez. One of those two picked a fight and shouted and "threw a hissy fit" on camera with three separate players during a match he was the manager for, his team was getting creamed and his tactics and substitutions were a joke. The other one warmed up, sat on the bench ready to come on and got screamed at when he told the manager he was already warmed up.

Then when Mancini LIED in an interview afterwards, Tevez did nothing, then when the investigation found that Tevez didn't refuse to play in the game, he did nothing, then when Mancini said he'd never play for City ever again, he went home to play golf, then when Mancini was desparate Tevez exchanged one apology for 200-250k a week........

well said.
 
Blackpool, afaik, didn't jump on the "we're in the premier league so lets triple everyones wages" bandwagon, and there is no rule that means being promoted means you have to do so. Likewise everyone SHOULD sign contracts whereby relegation has a MASSIVE< monumental wage drop..

Blackpool did just that, the wages went up for the premiership but had a clause that relegation would cause many of the players to have their wages slashed by 50%, this included holloway.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ol-players-driven-relegation-wage-threat.html
 
But its in bad taste what Tevez did ie with the RIP Fergie placard. Not a good way to fix your image imho. .

The City fans will love it and winning them back is what matters right now. I don't see the fuss tbh, it's not like he's ill or dieing. Just a response for one of Fergies comments.
 
Tevez officially withdraws his apology that presumably City forced him into in the first place..... anyone still think there was nothing malicious behind it?

Sooner the little **** leaves Europe the better
 
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