Greenlizard0's Weekend Football Thread [August 5/6/7 2011]

Does anyone else think Mancini talks far too much about needing to complete the squad' even when it's inappropriate?

With the amount of players they have for each position...ermmm isnt his squad complete??..are they missing players from certain positions??:confused: genuinely confused by that comment of his....
 
First half was funny, not a clue what vidic was doing for that second goal....... the best CB in the world according to some on here.

UTD were good throughout, Nani came into the game more later on, Young was excellent throughout though a little hoggy with the ball. Excellent set piece delivery, consistant, set the first goal up perfectly. Smalling looks surprisingly good going forwards.

City looked poor but it was in midfield, not Tevez not playing. There was no shape in midfield, De Jong destroyed most of anything that got near him but they were soo easy to play through, there was no line, it was a heavily disjointed 5 that were never organised in the second half at all.

Cleverly looks very impressive, though how good against a midfield that was splitup the way it was I don't know. He's got that Fabregas, first touch either into space, or pass to a player that 90% of other players wouldn't be aware were there in the first place.

Get the feeling him and Wilshire could be freaking ridiculous together for England for the next , hell, 15 years. They are both guys who have the potential, the talent, the technical ability to play for a team like Barca/Spain.

City's defensive line still looks strong, they've still got Toure to come back but, the game pretty much highlighted the best defence will still get easily beaten if the midfield makes zero impact on the game like in the second half.
 
Decent game all round even without taking into account that it was the charity shield.

City were pretty mediocre, outwith his goal Dzeko offered nothing as usual. I can't remember him ever having a good game. Jones looks a proper player, will be a shame if he doesn't get enough game time as he could easily go to the Euro's.
 
With the amount of players they have for each position...ermmm isnt his squad complete??..are they missing players from certain positions??:confused: genuinely confused by that comment of his....

He just needs Messi, Ronaldo and some team spirit to complete his team.
 
I know, personally I disagree that they really need to buy much more, or rather, they shouldn't after what they spent but that's his business. My issue is, why shoehorn it in to every conversation with the media? You were obviously being asked about where you felt your players sharpness was after the preseason.

It's just weird when you see managers who've spent bugger all in comparison and where you can see that they might need a few signings not commenting and even under direct questioning just extolling the virtues of their current players. The contrast with the richest manager in the world is marked.
 
Jones, Cleverley and Welbeck have basically put themselves forward as players for us.

Thats very pleasing when you think that two of them cost nothing.

I REALLY hope Cleverley gets his chance and i suspect that Smalling and Jones will force their way into the team, which is amazing when you consider that Rio and Vidic are first choice.
 
i really hope jones gets picked ahead of ferdinand. personally i'd rather we just have smalling and jones in there now, might have a few mistakes in the first season but giving them real time to gel would pay off massively in the future.

Then again Smalling looked too good at right back :|

Lost for words on cleverly, got the same feeling as when i first watched Wilshire, just so composed and the vision to see everything around him. As Drunkenmaster said, the prospect of them two in the middle for England bodes massively well, he embarrassed the (whilst very disjointed) City midfield today.
 
If anything, City need to stop buying and let the team gel. It must be difficult having 3+ 'big name' signings arriving every transfer window if you're already playing for City.
 
i really hope jones gets picked ahead of ferdinand. personally i'd rather we just have smalling and jones in there now, might have a few mistakes in the first season but giving them real time to gel would pay off massively in the future.

Then again Smalling looked too good at right back :|

Lost for words on cleverly, got the same feeling as when i first watched Wilshire, just so composed and the vision to see everything around him. As Drunkenmaster said, the prospect of them two in the middle for England bodes massively well, he embarrassed the (whilst very disjointed) City midfield today.

Ive spent two pre seasons banging on about cleverley and both times hes gone on loan. Now is his time!!!
 
DTguardian daniel taylor said:
Mario Balotelli leaves Wembley in gold puffa jacket, knee-length denim shorts (diamond hem) and glittering-gold suitcase. Legend!


Hahahaha :D :D
 
Cleverley does have that Wilshire-esque feel to him, definitely. He's one to watch.

I doubt we'll get Sneijder now but that may not be a bad thing.
 
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Smalling was amazing once more there. What a player he is.

Exactly - not sure what the commentary was saying about him more likely to get games at RB rather than CB this season

(Im not suggesting he isnt an option but surely he is nearer to a game -with Rio's injury situation - at Centre half , than playing as FB behind Rafael , Fabio....)
 
I'm not sure I'd go around saying Anderson was fantastic, or put that in the same sentence as Cleverly and Nani in terms of being very impressive. Thought Anderson added little to the team, lot of bluster, not much else, even in a game the other team weren't playing well the difference in quality between him and Cleverly was very obvious.


City, their problem is Mancini, Hughes made the biggest difference, they had a hugely exciting team and a defence that was starting to gel and needed a little time.

That squad is built for a good 4-4-2, yet they play a 4-5-1 and force their strikers to play in a way none of them are great for, and end up forced to play a simply not good enough central midfielder to make up the numbers. De Jong and Toure have MORE than enough quality to be their central midfield. Utd's 4-3-3 works because young, Nani and Rooney have pace and drive. Dzeko, a not particularly fast front man, with a ickle left winger who isn't that fast and doesn't really have that drive/strength/determination to play that role, and SWP/Johnson/Balotelli/Milner for the right wing, of whom none are either good enough, or good in that role.
 
I'm not sure I'd go around saying Anderson was fantastic, or put that in the same sentence as Cleverly and Nani in terms of being very impressive. Thought Anderson added little to the team, lot of bluster, not much else, even in a game the other team weren't playing well the difference in quality between him and Cleverly was very obvious.


City, their problem is Mancini, Hughes made the biggest difference, they had a hugely exciting team and a defence that was starting to gel and needed a little time.

That squad is built for a good 4-4-2, yet they play a 4-5-1 and force their strikers to play in a way none of them are great for, and end up forced to play a simply not good enough central midfielder to make up the numbers. De Jong and Toure have MORE than enough quality to be their central midfield. Utd's 4-3-3 works because young, Nani and Rooney have pace and drive. Dzeko, a not particularly fast front man, with a ickle left winger who isn't that fast and doesn't really have that drive/strength/determination to play that role, and SWP/Johnson/Balotelli/Milner for the right wing, of whom none are either good enough, or good in that role.

I thought Anderson played very well.

Dzeko doesnt seem to be a £30m striker.

But them neither does Balotelli

or Adeybayor.......

and RSC at £18M?

or Bellamy at £13m?

etc etc
 
I'm not sure I'd go around saying Anderson was fantastic, or put that in the same sentence as Cleverly and Nani in terms of being very impressive. Thought Anderson added little to the team, lot of bluster, not much else, even in a game the other team weren't playing well the difference in quality between him and Cleverly was very obvious.


City, their problem is Mancini, Hughes made the biggest difference, they had a hugely exciting team and a defence that was starting to gel and needed a little time.

That squad is built for a good 4-4-2, yet they play a 4-5-1 and force their strikers to play in a way none of them are great for, and end up forced to play a simply not good enough central midfielder to make up the numbers. De Jong and Toure have MORE than enough quality to be their central midfield. Utd's 4-3-3 works because young, Nani and Rooney have pace and drive. Dzeko, a not particularly fast front man, with a ickle left winger who isn't that fast and doesn't really have that drive/strength/determination to play that role, and SWP/Johnson/Balotelli/Milner for the right wing, of whom none are either good enough, or good in that role.

Anderson was ******* amazing today, he made the City midfielders look like chumps every time they went near him, I think he was tackled ONCE in the match, and that drew a yellow card.
 
I thought Utd's football was pretty damn good to be honest.

City were just hoofing and hoping, headless chickens. It was mostly a youth team for the second half so even more credit to them.

He's a Liverpool fan, Sunday side football should be good for him ;)

(I kid)

Anyway I enjoyed it...thought it was a good game and that united played well.
 
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