Greenpeace - Rainbow Warrior.

don't start on badgers! Or I'll gather my stripy hordes and smite you! Just a couple of points which made me laugh, the geezer dissing personal solar panels for homes has obviously never heard of batteries! Also most research into wind power specifically sets out to look for worst case scenarios, the fact is it works, half of Kent is powered by the redsands farms, or will be soon. Greenpeace are not angels but also do not claim to be, they aim to promote awarness and discusion, and while this thread proves that they certainly have promoted discussion, some of the ignorant views displayed here demonstrates that awarness is still a long way off!
 
A photographer drowned when the Rainbow Warrrior was sunk by the DGSE.

Grow up.

He was an idiot anyway (died by own fault by going to get his bloody camera) and I won't miss any dead Greenpeace idiot... I hope all their ships get sunk by the army.
 
Just a couple of points which made me laugh, the geezer dissing personal solar panels for homes has obviously never heard of batteries!

There is more to solar panels than photovoltaics, with photovoltaics being probably the worse way to currenty use solar panels. But please carry on with an ill-informed rant if you wish.

Also most research into wind power specifically sets out to look for worst case scenarios, the fact is it works, half of Kent is powered by the redsands farms, or will be soon.

I'd check your figures again. The Kentish Flats Windfarm can generate at max when fully operational 90MW. That is if all 30 turbines are operating at full capacity. You would need 7 such farms to equal just one nuke plant. If it is too windy or not windy enough the output will reduce dramatically. So you then need back up sources able to generate power.

Greenpeace are not angels but also do not claim to be, they aim to promote awarness and discusion, and while this thread proves that they certainly have promoted discussion, some of the ignorant views displayed here demonstrates that awarness is still a long way off!

When they start telling the truth, when they start being honest, then I may take them seriously. Until then they are just another bunch of clueless idealists with a tenuous grip on reality at best.
 
pollution caused by combustion engines is obviously a big issue to you!
Ahem! Says the man with the Alfa Signature :)
To be honest its very easy to score points off Greenpeace, but at least they are trying to do something

Only if you're causing the pollution in the name of preventing it. It's the hypocrisy that grinds my beef, couldn't care less about pollution.
 
Whether or not they're using a diesel engine doesn't matter, the good they're doing far outweighs damage they may be causing.

What good?


I don;t see any powerstation being shut down because of this, no i only see mroe being built, so all they've done is add a little more pollution to the world.

Would have done more good for the enviroment to just stay at home with the lights off.
 
pollution caused by combustion engines is obviously a big issue to you!
Ahem! Says the man with the Alfa Signature :)
To be honest its very easy to score points off Greenpeace, but at least they are trying to do something

Trying to do something? Like vandalizing a chimney of a coal plant then not paying up to repair the damage (because of some retard jury)? They're eco-terrorists, radical idiots that should be shot. Yes they are trying to do something, they are trying to ruin peoples lives and cause as much damage as possible, and to provoke as many people as they can.
 
What good?

I don;t see any powerstation being shut down because of this, no i only see mroe being built, so all they've done is add a little more pollution to the world.

Would have done more good for the enviroment to just stay at home with the lights off.

Greenpeace.org.uk said:
Greenpeace has played a pivotal role in, among other things, the adoption of:

-a ban on toxic waste exports to less developed countries
-a moratorium on commercial whaling
-a United Nations convention providing for better management of world fisheries
-a Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary
-a 50-year moratorium on mineral exploitation in Antarctica
-bans on the dumping at sea of radioactive and industrial waste and disused oil installations
-an end to large-scale driftnet fishing on the high-seas
-a ban on all nuclear weapons testing - our first ever campaign.

According to them.
 
Greenpeace has played a pivotal role in, among other things, the adoption of:

-a ban on toxic waste exports to less developed countries
-a moratorium on commercial whaling
-a United Nations convention providing for better management of world fisheries
-a Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary
-a 50-year moratorium on mineral exploitation in Antarctica
-bans on the dumping at sea of radioactive and industrial waste and disused oil installations
-an end to large-scale driftnet fishing on the high-seas
-a ban on all nuclear weapons testing - our first ever campaign.
According to them.


All with this one trip focused on coal?
 
Because they aren't coming up with workable solutions and are instead trying to block the best methods we currently have of reducing fossil fuel usage.

The best methods we currently have are not the best but just the best for raising taxes and profits. That's why there's such a big push towards nuclear instead of renewables such as wind, solar, and zero-point systems.

Though I do agree that greenpeace are a bunch of corporate pacifists.
 
Concerning the advert itself, a nuclear explosion wouldn't occur in that situation.

I'm not suggesting you're not aware of that/your post could have been a joke, etc.

Don't worry I am aware, yet Joe public will take one look at that and believe it :(
 
There is more to solar panels than photovoltaics, with photovoltaics being probably the worse way to currenty use solar panels. But please carry on with an ill-informed rant if you wish.

The funny bit was them not working at night! Anyway, i thougth this was the ill informed thread so i had better join in :) dont get tetchy :)

I'd check your figures again. The Kentish Flats Windfarm can generate at max when fully operational 90MW. That is if all 30 turbines are operating at full capacity. You would need 7 such farms to equal just one nuke plant. If it is too windy or not windy enough the output will reduce dramatically. So you then need back up sources able to generate power.

I did say "or will be soon" ie, The Thanet Project, The london Array. Ok, i''l admit to some "ahem" artistic exaggeration on that one, but renuable wind farms are still much better than limited life span reactors, yes Nuke power has its place (until something non fossil and better is developed), but the more farms and other renuable energy sources we use the less expensive limited life reactors we need.

Anyway., argueing over the merits of Nuke over Renuable Energy should be a seperate thread/fight :)

Back to Greenpeace.........
Would the Rainbow Warrior have counted as a french military victory? Might explain the real reason why they did it :)
 
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Yes they are trying to do something, they are trying to ruin peoples lives.

Ruin people's lives?

Do you work in musical theater at all, because you seem a bit dramatic.

Greenpeace are a minor annoyance, at most, to the projects and works they interrupt. However, they do get the cameras there and they get people talking about things.

They aren't dangerous and they aren't terrorists, they can be childish and foolish and they do make mistakes, but nothing more.
 
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