Greta Thunberg

Malevolence said:
Climate change could be very good for Manchester. Temperatures rises, ice melts and Manchester gets a load of new seafront property. Just will have to come up with a name because Manchester-by-the-Sea is taken.
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It'll have to be renamed anyhow - can't be having man in the name in this day and age! (EDIT: Also Chester is male gendered so that is a double whammy).

EDIT2: It is also military themed so that is 3 strikes against it in this day and age.

EDIT3: Also the reference to breasts in the settlement shape - how has there not been an outcry against its name by now?
 
FoxEye said:
Except the people who are?
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You know what I meant, 'no one is doing anything' was obviously not meant literally.

While you've got adults bullying her on social media for no reason, and illiterate people like @robgmun blaming her for deaths and saying she's talking rubbish while they see the world literally changing before their eyes, then perhaps a little hope does die?
 
wesimmo said:
You know what I meant, 'no one is doing anything' was obviously not meant literally.

While you've got adults bullying her on social media for no reason, and illiterate people like @robgmun blaming her for deaths and saying she's talking rubbish while they see the world literally changing before their eyes, then perhaps a little hope does die?
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Well if you are going to blame anyone you really have to blame all of us.

The necessary changes would be fairly drastic and 99.9% of us aren't prepared to give up our lifestyle to make drastic changes.

Heck, most of us won't even make minor changes.

The best hope is that we invest heavily in technology and the drivers of that will be government legislation and subsidies.
 
FoxEye said:
Well if you are going to blame anyone you really have to blame all of us.

The necessary changes would be fairly drastic and 99.9% of us aren't prepared to give up our lifestyle to make drastic changes.

Heck, most of us won't even make minor changes.

The best hope is that we invest heavily in technology and the drivers of that will be government legislation and subsidies.
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Fine, but don't celebrate a hashtag that is trying to put the suicide of a kid on another kid.

Especially a kid who has shown that she has more empathy than most of the disgusting trolls using that hashtag, if she now commits suicide over her guilt, are they going to take the blame?
 
wesimmo said:
Fine, but don't celebrate a hashtag that is trying to put the suicide of a kid on another kid.

Especially a kid who has shown that she has more empathy than most of the disgusting trolls using that hashtag, if she now commits suicide over her guilt, are they going to take the blame?
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Did I do that in the first place?
 
wesimmo said:
You literally quoted my post and made some inane quip.
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Yes, yes I did.

I also think Greta's latest outburst is akin to a televised tantrum.

These things are thing I've actually said, vs what you accused me of saying, which was totally different.

Falling back on the old "middle aged white men should be ignored" trope now? I guess we're playing left-wing bingo! Hurrah! It's fun game.
 
she seems like a manipulated weirdo that is very angry......

i do not care if she has aspergers, i got diagnosed with autism earlier this year and i would never be so disrespectful of other people.

has she actually said any solutions? or does she get in front of a camera and shout at people?? while offering nothing?
 
Yrkoon said:
she seems like a manipulated weirdo that is very angry......

i do not care if she has aspergers, i got diagnosed with autism earlier this year and i would never be so disrespectful of other people.

has she actually said any solutions? or does she get in front of a camera and shout at people?? while offering nothing?
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Why does she need to offer solutions? The solution is obvious, and being done, just not enough or fast enough. She constantly points to the reports from IPCC when asked about it, so read it, it typically has the solutions at the end, with appropriate language.

If 30+ years of increasingly depressing reports haven't really moved people, why are you saying it would now? She exists precisely because government's have taken the slow approach, always economy first, even if the economy barely exists by 2100 entirely because of the lack of enough focus. So no a more calm, collected, professional speech would not have magically made a difference as you purport, as that has been exactly what has got us to this sordid situation.

You can try to make her seem like a dead cat strategy to continue this facade of "carefully" planned wreckage, but it's rather obvious i must say.

Dead cat strategy, or Deadcatting, refers to the introduction of a dramatic, shocking, or sensationalist topic to divert discourse away from a more damaging topic.
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Instead of ignoring her, you've (collective you) used her as a distraction to ignore the seriousness of what's coming, as it would harm your economic activity or prosperity, even though it will regardless harm it by not pushing for further reform regardless of its impact.
 
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StriderX said:
If 30+ years of increasingly depressing reports haven't really moved people, why are you saying it would now? She exists precisely because government's have taken the slow approach, always economy first
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It's not an easy problem for any government to solve.

The "slow approach" as you put it maintains living standards, which people expect - or demand.

Start taking things away (like luxuries and convenience) and see how much support your government has left. And since governments have to be elected, there's a limit to how drastically you can cut into people's quality of life.

Plus no one has a magic money tree so it's always a balancing act.

The action has to be taken by the government, yes, but the will to do it has to come from the people.
 
StriderX said:
Why does she need to offer solutions? The solution is obvious, and being done, just not enough or fast enough. She constantly points to the reports from IPCC when asked about it, so read it, it typically has the solutions at the end, with appropriate language.

If 30+ years of increasingly depressing reports haven't really moved people, why are you saying it would now? She exists precisely because government's have taken the slow approach, always economy first, even if the economy barely exists by 2100 entirely because of the lack of enough focus. So no a more calm, collected, professional speech would not have magically made a difference as you purport, as that has been exactly what has got us to this sordid situation.

You can try to make her seem like a dead cat strategy to continue this facade of "carefully" planned wreckage, but it's rather obvious i must say.



Instead of ignoring her, you've (collective you) used her as a distraction to ignore the seriousness of what's coming, as it would harm your economic activity or prosperity, even though it will regardless harm it by not pushing for further reform regardless of its impact.
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what??? please tell me these solutions at the end? seriously im drunk and autistic but im confused, please tell me these solutions?
 
Yrkoon said:
while offering nothing?
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I think this is why most people find her annoying, she's just parroting everything we've already been told, stuff we've been told since the 70's

The reality is, nobody wants to make the tough sacrifices in order to try and save the planet/environment because we keep kicking a dead horse by the media trying to scare us into acting instead of government forcing us to act

Anybody who has had kids in the last 20 years, knows very well what world they're going to leave for their kids to "enjoy", I'd say that's pretty evil and selfish and sums up perfectly why we're ******
 
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