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GT200 GTX280/260 "official specs"

Assuming this is true, the GTS260 looks nice for what will presumably be the 'mainstream enthusiast' part costing around £200 or less.

Unlikely.

If past releases are anything to go by, we're looking at release-day prices of around £400-£450 for the GTX-280 part, and £325-£375 for the GTX-260 part. These are all high-end parts, and the mainstream market will continue to be serviced by the G92 parts already available.

The weak dollar (~$2.00/£ now as opposed to ~$1.85/£ when the 8-series was released) may push prices down a further 10% or so, but I wouldn't count on it. Expect prices to drop by £50 or so after a couple of weeks though, when the initial rush and price-gouging subsides a little.
 
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Same way they got 384-bit and 320-bit... 320 is just 256+64. 384-bit is that+64. 448-bit is 384-bit+64-bit. 512-bit is the same again.
 
'Well, it turns out we still can't use all that memory bandwidth. Oh well, at least we had some people paying a lot of money for these cards.'
 
The 8800 GTS 640 was over £200 for a very long time. :\

True, but the GTS320 (also a mainstream enthusiast part) was available at under £200 shortly after launch.

Still, it may be wishful thinking on my part - I'm kinda hoping that NV will be using conservative clocks (to keep it away from GTX280 levels) and place it not too far above the 9800GTX in terms of price point.
 
'Well, it turns out we still can't use all that memory bandwidth. Oh well, at least we had some people paying a lot of money for these cards.'

I believe G80 cores are bandwidth starved at high resolutions with AA enabled...

R600 was the one that had too much bandwidth, as was R580+ before it. RV670 is about right. G80 and G92 i think are bandwidth starved.

Anyway, i expect a refresh of this chip with 256 bit and GDDR5 to perform about the same a year from now.
 
True, but the GTS320 (also a mainstream enthusiast part) was available at under £200 shortly after launch.

Still, it may be wishful thinking on my part - I'm kinda hoping that NV will be using conservative clocks (to keep it away from GTX280 levels) and place it not too far above the 9800GTX in terms of price point.

The GTS320 was released 3 months after the GTX and GTS640, and took a further 6months to drop consitently below £200. This was also at a time when Nvidia did not have competetive mid-high range products. The situation is quite the opposite now, with the mid-high end market (£150-£250 price point) heavily saturated by both nvidia and ATI.

Don't expect to be able to grab one of these new cards for much less than £300 until around Christmas. Mark my words.
 
I believe G80 cores are bandwidth starved at high resolutions with AA enabled...

R600 was the one that had too much bandwidth, as was R580+ before it. RV670 is about right. G80 and G92 i think are bandwidth starved.

Anyway, i expect a refresh of this chip with 256 bit and GDDR5 to perform about the same a year from now.

I concur with that. I am pretty sure that my 1900xt when overclocked had a lot more bandwidth than my 8800, hell even at stock I think it did. Shame it had to go break on me. Those specs do look pretty beefy and should pack a punch, but when i next upgrade my build in september I will go back to the red team 'cause I will be on a budget.
 
The GTS320 was released 3 months after the GTX and GTS640, and took a further 6months to drop consitently below £200. This was also at a time when Nvidia did not have competetive mid-high range products. The situation is quite the opposite now, with the mid-high end market (£150-£250 price point) heavily saturated by both nvidia and ATI.

Don't expect to be able to grab one of these new cards for much less than £300 until around Christmas. Mark my words.

In principle you have swayed me somewhat, although the GTS320 was definitely under £200 soon after launch (I got my factory overclocked BFG version for under £200 in the first week of March 2007, that's less than 5 months after the first Geforce 8 cards were launched, never mind 9 months!). Point taken about it not being a launch card though.

The thing is, looking at NV's current lineup, there's basically no new cards between the 9800GTX (£175) and the 9800GX2 (£330). With the 3870x2 priced competitively at around £220, they need to slot something in around the £200-250 pricepoint.

£200 is probably a bit optimistic but I'm hoping for £250.
 
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