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GTX 570 SIMPLY STUNNING

i7 4 ghz @ 80c max.

I removed them because I am comfortable w/ the peak temps I am getting.

also since the GPU uses a blower fan I imagine that would exhaust hot air as their purpose is to not recycle hot air into the case again.

also my CPU has 2 700 rpm 140 mm fans blowing hot air away and I'm fine with a peak of 80 c
 
Cythx said:
If the card dies, I get a refund :D

Which I would prefer right now

Also, I don't think 90 will kill my GPU, and if it does 'eventually', I doubt that time will come before I sell/replace it.
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That about sums it up, doesn't it !!!, No respect for quality kit that a lot of people would love to own but can not afford.

Quite frankly I'm disgusted with Myself for Not noticing that You removed the Case fans, What the hell were You thinking ?

Hardly surprising that so many of the new cases come "screwdriver free" So the Kiddies don't even need to learn how to use a screwdriver and they can remove the components much quicker to RMA them !
 
JAKUS said:
That about sums it up, doesn't it !!!, No respect for quality kit that a lot of people would love to own but can not afford.

Quite frankly I'm disgusted with Myself for Not noticing that You removed the Case fans, What the hell were You thinking ?

Hardly surprising that so many of the new cases come "screwdriver free" So the Kiddies don't even need to learn how to use a screwdriver and they can remove the components much quicker to RMA them !
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I was thinking I wanted my computer to be quieter at idle.

I'm pretty confident someone who has learnt to put a computer together can at least operate a screwdriver.

Do you really think this thing wasn't meant to operate at 90c when even nvidia state that the maximum operating temperate is 97/99/104 for their current gen cards?
 
Damm right I think their not supposed to run at 90+ c for extended periods, Its a maximum not a target.

Why do You think a lot of laptops don't last very long ?

Heat is the arch enemy of electronics...do a bit of reading ! Component life is drastically shortened by elevated temps.

You fancy Yourself as an Overclocker, Well the first thing You should learn is stability is improved no end with lower temps, which is why water cooling etc..was developed.

Here's Your first lesson..
For a given Air inlet you should be looking at 1.5x bigger for the exhaust because the heated air expands, It's always better to get rid of the hot air than blow in cold air.
 
Can you actually give me anything to support that letting my 570 peak at 90 will cause it to die within 2 years? Please, no anecdotal evidence.
 
JAKUS said:
Damm right I think their not supposed to run at 90+ c for extended periods, Its a maximum not a target.

Why do You think a lot of laptops don't last very long ?

Heat is the arch enemy of electronics...do a bit of reading ! Component life is drastically shortened by elevated temps.

You fancy Yourself as an Overclocker, Well the first thing You should learn is stability is improved no end with lower temps, which is why water cooling etc..was developed.

Here's Your first lesson..
For a given Air inlet you should be looking at 1.5x bigger for the exhaust because the heated air expands, It's always better to get rid of the hot air than blow in cold air.
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I have never heard such rubbish.

Look at the Silverstone cases, such as the RV02 and FT02 they work on a positive pressure principal. :rolleyes:

You are however right with the rest of you post re limits, targets and stability.:D

Matt
 
JAKUS said:
Damm right I think their not supposed to run at 90+ c for extended periods, Its a maximum not a target.
Why do You think a lot of laptops don't last very long ?

Heat is the arch enemy of electronics...do a bit of reading ! Component life is drastically shortened by elevated temps.

You fancy Yourself as an Overclocker, Well the first thing You should learn is stability is improved no end with lower temps, which is why water cooling etc..was developed.

Here's Your first lesson..
For a given Air inlet you should be looking at 1.5x bigger for the exhaust because the heated air expands, It's always better to get rid of the hot air than blow in cold air.
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sound advice :cool: but your first point made me laugh :D
 
mattup said:
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I have never heard such rubbish.

Look at the Silverstone cases, such as the RV02 and FT02 they work on a positive pressure principal. :rolleyes:

You are however right with the rest of you post re limits, targets and stability.:D

Matt
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Your about as bright as Cythx then !

Positive pressure principle is about controlling cooling air flow by blowing more in than you extract at your chosen positions.

It is still Cycling lots of cooling air for the purpose of cooling. it DOES NOT mean forcing air in and not taking it out will give the same effect :rolleyes:

My most basic point about cooling stands, heated air expands, so You have more air to get rid off after it's "worked"
 
JAKUS said:
Your about as bright as Cythx then !

Positive pressure principle is about controlling cooling air flow by blowing more in than you extract at your chosen positions.

It is still Cycling lots of cooling air for the purpose of cooling. it DOES NOT mean forcing air in and not taking it out will give the same effect :rolleyes:

My most basic point about cooling stands, heated air expands, so You have more air to get rid off after it's "worked"
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Quit with the insults and take it on the chin.

Matt
 
Got to admit i've always gone for more out than in, if you're extracting more than you're sucking in you're creating a faster airflow overall throughout the case and increasing efficiency of the intake.
 
Cooling is a very interesting Science, Your medium Air or Water generally needs to stay long enough around the heat source to efficiently absorb the heat and like wise, long enough in the radiator to liberate it.

With Air cooling, it does not take a genius to realize You can have a too much in or too much out, leaving large stagnated hot spots in the case.

I would say a sort of assisted Thermosiphon is what you are looking for ;)
 
With all the points being made above surely the manufacturer of the case puts in the right amount of fans for optimum running and removing all these fans has defeated one of the biggest pluses of buying an expensive case. Theres no way i would be happy with my i7@4ghz running a constant 80 under load. Mine runs at 60 degrees under load using a titan fenrir with 1 fan attached. I see no need for another cpu fan as the temps are cool enough and this is mainly down to my case doing a good job of exhausting the heat and pulling in cooler air to keep the temps inside down. My gpu may not be a gtx570 but my temps at load are always under 60 degrees with manual fan.

I think the overall goal for most people should be to have a good balance of quiet and cool not just quiet.
 
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I'm happy with letting my components peak at 80 for the CPU and 90 for the GPU, I don't think it's anyone else's issue what happens to my components. I do understand that components can die earlier if you're over volting them or keeping them out of specified temps/voltages. I also think I'm prepared for the consequences. I don't need these components to last for 10 years, because I'll definitely be replacing them when I see a new GPU/CPU that gives me a good enough jump in performance over what I have.
 
Whats right about wanting to run your chips and pretty expensive chips near there thermal limits when theres no need to. Especially in a case like yours thats designed to keep components cool and to run quiet. Seems pretty flawed to me.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Whats right about wanting to run your chips and pretty expensive chips near there thermal limits when theres no need to. Especially in a case like yours thats designed to keep components cool and to run quiet. Seems pretty flawed to me.
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Because I can always make use of the extra performance especially since I use a resolution of 2560x1440 and like to run games on max. In fact, I ran my card on stock the other day and could notice how much I benefited from the extra performance when I experienced lag throughout a few matches in Crysis 2.

I bought this case for almost half price because I wanted a good looking, quiet case. That's what I got, I wasn't so concerned with buying a case that would let my GTX 570 operate at 87c instead of 90c.

you're saying my logic is flawed because I sacrifice temperature for a lack of noise while buying a case that's aimed to operate silently?
 
Cythx said:
Because I can always make use of the extra performance especially since I use a resolution of 2560x1440 and like to run games on max. In fact, I ran my card on stock the other day and could notice how much I benefited from the extra performance when I experienced lag throughout a few matches in Crysis 2.

I bought this case for almost half price because I wanted a good looking, quiet case. That's what I got, I wasn't so concerned with buying a case that would let my GTX 570 operate at 87c instead of 90c.

you're saying my logic is flawed because I sacrifice temperature for a lack of noise while buying a case that's aimed to operate silently?
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Its aimed to operate silently with all its case fans running with good airflow. What you have done is take out its ability to cool but probably not reduced noise to any decent degree.
 
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