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GTX 780 Ti Specifications Leaked – Full Blown Gk110 Core with 2880 SP

Jokester said:
Yeah, the TDP. Power consumption could be different.
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True, I think both cards can potentially pull a lot of juice. I still think the 780ti will use less power as Nvidia touted it as quiet and cool in their tech day thing. The 290X is already well known power hog, so the 780ti has some wiggle room to be as efficient. Hopefully get some reviews soon.

Launch price £550? Or could it be more?
 
melmac said:
Lol of course he is going to say that. But, you still cant get 25% more performance with the same power. Its the same GK110 chip. Just by adding the extra cores you are going to be using more power. And by increasing clocks you are using more power.

If you could link to that quote i would appreciate it.
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Ha, yeah he wouldn't make those statements if they weren't going to back them up. Obviously it is going to be the fastest GPU. Also just because it is derived from GK110, doesn't mean improvements / changes can't be made. It could have have been tweaked for improved power consumption etc, a good example is 5800K > 6800K, same chip revised for improved power consumption and overclocking on the same die node. It does happen 4870 > 4890 and so on..

Nvidia have had a lot of time to optimize GK110, the 780ti could well be more power efficient than the original Titan and far more powerful in games.

Here's the announcement video below, also something else you don't usually see from Nvidia.


 
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melmac said:
Boom, i know you love Nvidia, but, come on, He has told some pretty good Lies before. Jokester made reference to one whopper he told. The two examples you gave for power use are bad examples. The 5800k to 6800k are APU's, the powersaving was made by managing the way the cpu and gpu work together better. For your other example, the 4870 and 4890, you do realise that the 4890 was a different chip entirely? RV770 to RV790. Even if they were the same chip, it still wouldn't support your argument, because while the 4890 used less power at idle, it did use way more under load.

We know the 780Ti is a GK110 chip. We know the GK110 is very efficient as it was designed to work in supercomputers with strict power demands. You think they are somehow magically create more performance for less power?

It will definitely be cooler and quieter than the 290x but will it be cooler and quieter than a stock 780?

But you would have to be living in dreamland to think it is going to use less power than the titan.
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Not really the 5800K > 6800K was an example everyone can follow, same chip, same die node, tweaked design for less power consumption and better overclocking. Same logic applies to GPU's. The latest GK110 revision, could have better power consumption to performance ratio.

Also the 4890 was exactly a tweaked 4870, they added a de-coupling ring, an additional 3million more transistors than 4870. Included improvements / tweaks made, but there is no logic design changes. Same architecture, same die node, resulted in better performance at stock and much better overclocking.

Likewise the GTX 780ti has more shaders, along with tweaked design. We just have to wait for reviews now to see how it compares.
 
^^ The 290X's already look pricey when compared to the vanilla GTX 780's, you can pick up a 780 from £350+, makes the 290X @ 425+ with reference cooling look a bit pricey tbh.

Predicted price for the next few weeks..

GTX 780 £350+
GTX 780 Ghz £425 / £450+
GTX 780 Ti £550+
GTX 780 Ti Black Edition (If released soon) £650+

Nvidia have the high end pretty well sown up..

We could see a GTX 770ti soon as well...
 
TheRealDeal said:
What is sown up about it apart from inflated prices.
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290X is £425+ GTX 780 is £350+ The 780 arguably gives similar in some cases better performance when overclocked, especially with air cooling, along with better power consumption and noise. So there's your value alternative to AMD's 290X.

Anything else in the range above, i.e GTX 780ti and ti black edition 6GB, is Nvidia stamping a claim to the performance crown, Nvidia don't need to 'make it cheap'. They only need do that if AMD can counter...

So yeah Nvidia have every price point sown up, let's see how AMD react. I wouldn't be surprised to see reference 290X's drop down to sub £400 before the month is out, with non ref coming in at current ref price..
 
ICDP said:
He means all sowed up if you forget AMD exist.

R9 290 ~£350 +
R9 290X £425 +

4GB VRAM, much better for ultra res which counts for all those on multi GPU. Excellent CF performance that leaves Nvidia in the dust.

I expect 780Ti to hit at £550 - £600 since Nvidia introduced a 780 GHz edition to sit between 780 and 780 Ti on price. My guess on the Nvidia line-up pricing matches reasonably well with Kap's.

GTX 780 ~£370+
GTX 780 Ghz ~£450+ (it's already this price on OCUK)
GTX 780 Ti £550+
GTX 780 Ti Black Edition (If released soon) ~£700
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If we just step back a sec, and put aside any bias people have for either camp..

If you compare a stock 290X £425+ VS a GTX 780 £350+

Most people would agree that the cooler quieter running Nvidia card is a more appealing option. Cheaper, arguably just as fast or faster is some cases.

So with that in mind Nvidia have already put pressure on AMD with a simple price drop. The new GPU's incoming will present a new performance tier, surpass AMD's cards in performance and likely cost more. Nvidia need only make those GPU's cheap if AMD counter..

So what I am saying is Nvidia have an option at every price tier to cater for wide range of gamers.

AMD will react soon, with non ref cards, likely price drops on ref cards, and Mantle unveiling to try and re take the crown. Right now Nvidia is doing ok. When Mantle drops who knows?
 
^^ Nice find frosty. Looks like it is the fastest card then, if it's priced decently then I could be tempted, otherwise I'm set on non ref 290X, something to mess with until 20nm.

Looking forward to seeing official reviews and overclocking.
 
Gregster said:
Fair play and I have been water cooled now for about a year. If I wasn't big into overclocking, I don't think I would go for it again (Buying all the rads/pumps/fittings), as the outlay is expensive but once you have it all, just the block is a good move. If I was just regular over clocking, I would stick with air.
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This is where ghetto watercooling comes into play :p

My Antec 620 Kuhler mod, keeps my 780 at 50c @ 1300mhz, the cooler was only £30 :D + with the bracket will fit any GPU..

Antec 920 on the 4770K and set for 4.6Ghz. Cheap and does the job (:
 
MrMarvelous said:
I'm honestly split between this and a 290X. How much faster do you guys think this would be compared to the 290X?
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Only a couple of days we'll get official reviews. Then can make an educated choice.

Right now I fancy non ref 290X, 780ti will have to be mighty impressive and even then could be priced to high.

Roll on reviews..
 
Gregster said:
How are the vrm's cooled?
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The brackets holds a fan just above the vrm and mem chips, the 620 mod is really effective and so cheap, def worth it for people with smaller budgets and don't want loud GPU's. I can't hear the Kuhler fans over the case fans, really nice and quiet. Yeah really not want one for noisy PC. I remember back in the day I had a 6990, the noise was unbearable :D
 
Kaapstad said:
Lets pretend the price is going to be 625.00 pounds

At the above price who will be buying one?
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We would need to see performance to see if a higher price was justified. Without any legit performance reviews, it's impossible to judge if it would be worth it.

Right now the 290X under water or with non ref cooling is more appealing to me, fancy a change from Nvidia until the 20nm GPU's appear, it all depends on performance now. Hopefully not long until reviews.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Have you forgotten that GTX780 was launched at $649.99 in the US, but £550-£650 here in the UK?

For $699.99, it would most likely mean £580-£680 over here...
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Nvidia didn't have competition back then, there were hikes, also did you not notice the '+' sign in my post lol.

My guess is prices will start from £550+ for the vanilla GTX 780ti. The sky is the limit on what Nvidia will charge for 6GB and 'Black Editions'.
 
There is one thing even the most loyal Nvidia fan cannot ignore :p

If the GTX 780ti comes in at £600+ That's the same price as two R9 290's !!

Two 4GB cards as well, that already compete well with GK110..

I just can't see the ti launching much higher than £550 it may even come in lower, £550 will be the base price, obviously some retailers could mark it up higher if they think they can get away with it, but yeah the entry point will be around £550, any higher and the R9 290's are to tempting an alternative.
 
Gregster said:
Well I will be sorted for buying 4 780Ti's. A very nice guy keeps emailing me (Mark Howard) and he is going to tell me how to make a living at beating the French roulette tables. I will be rich thanks to this nice chap :D
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Haha, I get emails like this. Really creepy ones as well, some auto bot spamming email thing. Some are funny, some are creepy as hell lol :D
 
Not long until proper reviews now..

It's looking like,

GTX 770 = R9 280X
GTX 780 = R9 290
GTX 780 Ghz = R9 290X
GTX 780 Ti = R9 290X 'Non ref'
GTX 780 Ti 'Non ref' 'Black edition' = ????????????
 
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