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GTX580 specs and benchmarks

drunkenmaster said:
a perfectly scaled 2900xt from 80to 55nm should have been around 1/4 of the size, it wasn't 420mm2 vs 192mm2 for the same performance.
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A "perfectly-scaled" chip moving from 80nm to 55nm would be 47.3% the original size, not 25%. In this case, the new chip is 45.7% the original size. So, it is "smaller", even taking into account the process reduction.

...(55/80)^2 is nowhere near 4. No idea what orifice you pulled that number from.
 
not a chance mate, ive not had this crappy 8600gs sat in here for nothing, having dreams about ati and nvidia cards, and reading leaked specs and benchies !
no o no
 
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GJ02 said:
what to do, what to do ? ?
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Same problem for me, the 580 or the 6970, need info and need it now! This card is attracting me though i know its overpriced and will be beaten by both new cards. Aargh I need a card for gaming now. Any sense in a 470\6870 and I could then get an SSD.:eek:
 
I think I am going to pass out from all the anticipated excitement lol:p. Would be excellent to see benchmarks between 6970 and 580.

Edit: Why 5870 performance is scaled to the figure of 1 in the graph?
 
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drunkenmaster> Regardless of the failings of Nvidia and the foundry, the 480GTX was STILL the fastest single GPU card. It annoys me that people keep berating it and Nvidia for this. ATI have been guilty of releasing an underperforming high-leakage card series as well, no point getting on the high horse time after time. A lot of tech companies (and other markets) are unable to meet the design spec, but once again, despite all the issues, it STILL was the fastest single GPU.

The 580GTX corrects these problems (that I see), and certainly shouldn't be called the 580. It's definately good news, and show's they are working to save their skin. But as you know, it's a long process, intel got locked into P4, but came out guns blazing with C2D.

Doesn't forgive Nvidia for going down this route and slow releases, but other companies are no saints in the design and release.
 
I am the biggest Nvidia fan going, and whatever price the GTX580 is, cant ever be too high for me.
 
drunkenmaster said:
By that I assume you mean you're shocked they are finally delivering on the card they launched, last November?

Last November they announced the "Fermi" architecture, with 512sp's, unknown clocks I believe(maybe they did state them, can't remember).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2849

Sorry I was wrong, they "launched" the Fermi architecture, in September last year, the very end of September, they announced it as a 512SP architecture, 384bit

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2918/2

Yup, thats them announcing it..... again, at CES in January, again listing it as a 512SP 384bit bus, blah blah blah.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/...-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-

Thats them finally actually releasing a specific card, but only has 480SP's, thats the end of March.

So this will be the third time they've announced a 512Sp 384bit bus, fundamentally identical architecture, though probably the first time we'll actually see it.


So did you really mean to say awesome, that its taken over 13 months, to relaunch the same part for the 3rd time? Really?

The fact its called a 580GTX is the single most laughable thing I can think of. 3870XT being slower than a 2900XT wasn't great, but it was undoubtably a significantly changed core on a process way smaller(but a rush job and not great. You have to remember how close together the 2900xt/3870/4870 actually were, you would think years apart.

I thought they were years apart, 2900XT was May 2007, 3870 was November 2007, 4870 was June 2008, thats 3 separate architectures, ALL massively different, across 2 process nodes(skipping 65nm) so 80nm and 55nm, in just over a year. Nvidia, by contrast, have re-launched the same product, or sorry, will have, in 13 months, and still not provided a single card.
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Lol, im sure this guy didn't give his comment a billionth of the time/thought you just have. (Admirable as your biblically proportioned posts are of course :D)
 
Jibber55 said:
Where exactly are you planning to fit your new card???? :eek:
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Im thinking more of the money grabbing fist coming from nvidia and amd and where its gonna be inserted. The Glove and the Lube would make it a bit more tolerable....and for some people... more pleasurable
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GJ02 said:
ok..so do we have a rough ball park figure on £££ for both 580 and 6970 ?
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My thoughts are if the 580 is only slightly better than the 480 then it would have to be no more than 480 price, but, if cheaper to produce(not sure about this) then that saving would presumably be passed on to the consumer.
The 6970 has to be around £300 because of the pricing of the 6850\6870 and of course the 6950 sitting in around £225-235 mark. Nvidia then have the problem of the 6970 at £300 and probably as good as the 580, would NV be able to match or better that price. Mmmmm..........:confused:
 
im pleased to see the 2 gfx companys are having a head to head with releasing faster cards, its good for us. but i wont be upgrading straight away,.. (to quote my responce to a trust msg over upgrading)...
after selling one of my 5870's last month ive found that my remaining 5870 still runs all the games i play very nicely,... 5870 CF was overkill quite frankly... so im going to stick with single GPU for the future and ive decided i wont upgrade my 5870 to an amd6970/nv580 untill i can take performance/price/power usage into proper consideration, which wont be untill both cards have been released for maybe a month or more and prices/performance(with new drivers) has stabalised. so i probably wont be upgrading this side of christmas, then if the performance of the 6970/580 isnt more than ~50% faster accross the board than my 5870 il wait till 28nm
 
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