Guild Wars 2

[dodgem]

If for example an MMO came out with one of those Lifetime account options and I was told the Lifetime account option was 49.99, I'd consider that a brilliant deal for an MMO.

Exactly this!

I don't get why people are getting worked up over a price of £50 all in. That's equivalent to 6 months sub for WoW, nevermind the the initial purchase of the game...

I can somewhat understand the hesitancy with paying £50 now, to play in the beta, but then not have an option of not buying it at release if you decided you didn't like it. But how about you just forget about the beta and the preorder, and simply buy it when it is released without having tried it, still for £50. Using WoW as an example again, when it was released, you needed to buy it in order to try it, there was no 7 days trial business.

Seems people are getting worked up because they feel they are entitled to try the game out for free. Some games allow that, but generally, MMOs do not.

 

[Nemeses]

£64 for Digi DEluxe
£50 for Standard

Giraffes all over the place !
will look for preorders elsewhere fi theres none of this lock in crap

aah I see the pricing is up on the GW 2 site now https://buy.guildwars2.com/
I will most likely get the DD version, tho and slightly leaning to wards the standard again as most the stuff thats good on the DD version is a once off

 

[bhavv]

The game isn't GW1 by a long shot. Its in the same universe with absolutely massive changes to the gameplay mechanics. The only reason I'm even looking at it is because its a sequel to GW, even though it has seemingly nothing in common with it.

No but people are simply bored of the first game and want the sequel.

The DD isn't actually worth it, the items are single use, the elite skill isn't going to be usable until level 30, and can't be any better than ice golem, hounds of Balthazar, or asura golem elites, and then all your paying for is the mini pet ... Which you get more than enough of from the HoM.

 

[Evilsod]

Exactly this!

I don't get why people are getting worked up over a price of £50 all in. That's equivalent to 6 months sub for WoW, nevermind the the initial purchase of the game...

I can somewhat understand the hesitancy with paying £50 now, to play in the beta, but then not have an option of not buying it at release if you decided you didn't like it. But how about you just forget about the beta and the preorder, and simply buy it when it is released without having tried it, still for £50. Using WoW as an example again, when it was released, you needed to buy it in order to try it, there was no 7 days trial business.

Seems people are getting worked up because they feel they are entitled to try the game out for free. Some games allow that, but generally, MMOs do not.

If you want to chuck £50 at every game that looks good then be my guest. This isn't 2004/5, WoW not having a trial 'back in the day' is not a reason for not having one now. Either I get to try it out or I'm not buying it, its that simple. If you want to act high n mighty and claim I'm saying I'm 'entitled' to a trial then feel free, Anet won't get anything from me just because its a sequel to GW.

I don't understand bhavv. The game is nothing like GW so why would people bored of GW snap it up? The fact I'm a fan of GW is the only reason I'm even here. The game has nothing in common gameplay wise with GW so I'm not going to jump on it as an instant buy.

 

[Tombstone]

If you want to chuck £50 at every game that looks good then be my guest.

Depends how you look at it I suppose, for a game which is a fully fledged MMO, with all the features of a subscription based MMO, I'm actually quite content to pay a single payment of £50 and not have to pay again. Compared to other titles in the genre I find that its actually a considerably cheaper deal than almost all other AAA MMO titles. Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt throw £50 at every game that looks good, but I'm fine with throwing £50 at an MMO.

 

[dodgem]

If you want to chuck £50 at every game that looks good then be my guest. This isn't 2004/5, WoW not having a trial 'back in the day' is not a reason for not having one now. Either I get to try it out or I'm not buying it, its that simple. If you want to act high n mighty and claim I'm saying I'm 'entitled' to a trial then feel free, Anet won't get anything from me just because its a sequel to GW.

But you are saying you're entitled to try it for free...

My point still stands, that MMOs generally do not let you try the game for free when they are released. Not just WoW 7 years ago, but pretty much all MMOs released recently. In fact I'd challenge you to name one that allowed you to to play without paying a single penny when it was released...
(there probably will be one knowing my luck but there will be many many many more that did not).

Sure it's a hefty price to pay for something you may not like, but £35 isn't a sneeze either, and that only gets you one month play for example. If you hate a subscription game then you lose £15 less compared to hating GW2. If you play a subbed game for 3 months then it's already more expensive than GW2.

But if you aren't going to buy it then fair do's, that's your prerogative

 

[ThomBassmonkey]

I don't see the problem, as others have said you're paying £50 for the game and a lifetime subscription.

With any pay to play game if you paid £50 for a lifetime sub after you've already paid £30 for the game, it'd be a bargain, I don't know why the goalposts move. Imagine if WoW said "if you give us £50 now, you never need to pay subs again", everyone with any sense that plans on playing 6 months + would go for it.

I think it looks similar to GW1 to be honest, I've been watching the Yogscast play it and the biggest gameplay difference seems to be that when you change weapons, half your bar changes. It seems much more like GW1 than another generic WoW rip off.

I'll definitely be pre-ordering.

And for the record, who says there'll be no free trial? The game doesn't even have a release date yet.

 

[Robbo]

I don't see the issue with paying £50 for a game, especially one of this nature.

Most games are £35~ anyway and won't get played half as much. This seems a bizarre stance to have.

Reviews should give you a fair indication of the general quality of the game as well.

 

[Huw]

Depends how you look at it I suppose, for a game which is a fully fledged MMO, with all the features of a subscription based MMO, I'm actually quite content to pay a single payment of £50 and not have to pay again. Compared to other titles in the genre I find that its actually a considerably cheaper deal than almost all other AAA MMO titles. Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt throw £50 at every game that looks good, but I'm fine with throwing £50 at an MMO.

Yeah, exactly this. I wouldn't buy any old game for £50. However, Guild Wars 2 is the sequel to my favourite MMO, it's made by the same people, they're looking to expand on and refine everything that we loved about Guild Wars, there's an extensive feature list so incredible that if only half of it is true will make it a genre-definer.

Frankly, I trust ANet. There are certain developers whose games I just know I'll love and ANet are definitely one of them. They've already sold me; I just need to figure out which version I want and where I'll buy it - I'm a raving fanboy, but I'm not stupid.

 

[Evilsod]

I'm loving all this talk of 'I don't mind paying £50'. So what do you do when you don't like the game? Throw £50 at the next game and hope you don't get burned there too?

Way to completely miss the point Huw. GW2 is the sequel to GW and has changed absolutely everything about the gameplay making it no more the sequel to GW than WoW was the sequel to Warcraft III. I don't care how good GW was, the only thing this game has in common with it is its Lore and that is not a reason to drop £50 on the chance I like this ones gameplay.

 

[Huw]

Way to completely miss the point Huw.

Sounds like you're the one who's missed the point. My whole post was demonstrating why I think I will like it and why I'm willing to buy it without a demo. If you're not happy to buy a game without trying it first, fine, but there's no need to go around criticising people who are.

 

[Robbo]

I'm loving all this talk of 'I don't mind paying £50'. So what do you do when you don't like the game? Throw £50 at the next game and hope you don't get burned there too?

It's a perfectly acceptable 'risk'. Just not for you.

The solution in your case is to wait for reviews and opinions, aside from that if there is no trial, tough luck.

 

[ColEx]

Is it 50 quid only for the pre order? I am not really bothered about getting a head start + beta access etc, if i can get it cheaper from somewhere else on release day or after, then i will do that. I agree with Evilsod 50 quid is a lot to throw at a game blindly.

 

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Need release date so I can book some time off work.

I didn't play Guildwars but this has really caught my eye after I got bored with WoW, looking forward to it.

 

[Evilsod]

Sounds like you're the one who's missed the point. My whole post was demonstrating why I think I will like it and why I'm willing to buy it without a demo. If you're not happy to buy a game without trying it first, fine, but there's no need to go around criticising people who are.

They haven't expanded and refined anything, they completely changed it. Sounds like your only reason is quite literally 'cos its got a 2 on the end'. As I said already, the only thing they have in common is the lore and with such a huge time difference between the 2 games that probably won't matter much either since they can invent anything they like in the mean-time. Being developed by the same company will not instantly make it good when the style has changed so drastically. The gameplay of GW1 was what I enjoyed and that isn't present at all in GW2 so why the hell would I feel any obligation to give them the benefit of the doubt and spend £50 trying it out?

 

[Caseh]

Is it 50 quid only for the pre order? I am not really bothered about getting a head start + beta access etc, if i can get it cheaper from somewhere else on release day or after, then i will do that. I agree with Evilsod 50 quid is a lot to throw at a game blindly.

Thing is though, it's not exactly going to be blindly. There are going to be many, many, many video's online from various different people about the game. It's getting covered by everyone, so there will be enough game footage to get an idea if it's for you or not.

I'll be pre ordering this game as soon as it's available to. The only decision I have to make is whether to go for the Collectors Edition or the standard.

 

[Nemeses]

I'm a little bit surprised they have not got a dedicated forum for GW2.

Most likely wanna avoid the hassle of all the whining that often happens, or the coat, but they cost could have been off-laid against advertising.

 

[Tombstone]

I'm loving all this talk of 'I don't mind paying £50'. So what do you do when you don't like the game? Throw £50 at the next game and hope you don't get burned there too?

No because as I've said I dont pay £50 for every game, but £50 for an MMO with an unlimited "subscription" seems to be good value to me for an MMO. Had it been an offline fps, or an adventure game or a RTS, then no, I wouldnt pay £50 for it, but for an MMO, a single payment for ever of £50, strikes me as good value compared to the norms of the genre. Its not about the price of it as a game, its about the price of it as an MMO.

 

[Evilsod]

No because as I've said I dont pay £50 for every game, but £50 for an MMO with an unlimited "subscription" seems to be good value to me for an MMO. Had it been an offline fps, or an adventure game or a RTS, then no, I wouldnt pay £50 for it, but for an MMO, a single payment for ever of £50, strikes me as good value compared to the norms of the genre. Its not about the price of it as a game, its about the price of it as an MMO.

What does it matter what genre it is if you don't like it £50 for an FPS you don't like or £50 for an MMO you don't like, whats the difference?

 

[Tombstone]

What does it matter what genre it is if you don't like it £50 for an FPS you don't like or £50 for an MMO you don't like, whats the difference?

The difference to me is the expected norm cost for the product. For instance, I wouldnt expect to pay £1.50 for a mars bar, but I'd happily pay £1.50 for a box of ferrero rocher. They are both chocolates but the cost I expect for the products are different. I wouldnt spend £20,000 on a ford focus, but I'd happily spend £20,000 on a ferrari. Boils down to the expected cost to me.

For a new MMO, I expect to pay something akin to £35 outlay and then £9 a month, I generally play an MMO for a minimum of a year, so for an MMO I am generally expecting to outlay around £125, for GW2 I will only outlay £50 for that same time frame, and should I come back later on then I still dont have to pay anything extra. To me at least, that seems like a good deal.

I'd like to see a free trial, I've said before (only yesterday on these forums I believe) that I'd prefer to see every MMO have a 1 week trial on designated trial servers from day one so that people can try before they buy, however thats not done and in lieu of that, I am content with a one time payment of £50 for an MMO. For an arcade shooter, no. For a text based adventure game, no. For an MMO, yes.