The name of an animal has been used to racially abuse people, so now we can no longer use that word even when not intending to racially abuse people, seems like the correct way of doing things. As opposed to taking things within their pragmatic context and applying critical thinking skills to decide whether a large multinational company is intending to offend millions of people or was simply advertising an item of clothing.
H&M Racism storm
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The name of an animal has been used to racially abuse people, so now we can no longer use that word even when not intending to racially abuse people, seems like the correct way of doing things. As opposed to taking things within their pragmatic context and applying critical thinking skills to decide whether a large multinational company is intending to offend millions of people or was simply advertising an item of clothing.
Man of Honour
Well no someone on set just needs to say, hey maybe don't put the black kid in the monkey top.
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There was blatantly no ill intention behind it but their marketing team has got to be pretty damn stupid to have ok’d it and not clocked onto how it could be viewed by some.
Don’t really think it’s got anything to do with modern pc times though, I’m fairly sure there would have been people kicking off about it back in the 90s as well.
Don’t really think it’s got anything to do with modern pc times though, I’m fairly sure there would have been people kicking off about it back in the 90s as well.
Don
And with that single action, the poor kid realises he's different to all the other kids and that he'll never just be accepted for who he is and always be defined by his skin colour.
Reminds me of this from South Park.. As mentioned already - doesn't the whole action of calling it out as racist, actually make it racist?
We got called "little monkeys" all the time as kids - its just something people do because, well you know - we used to get up to mischief and act like monkeys - the same animal we are all supposedly evolved from (including black kids - shock horror /end sarcasm)
I'm white so not sure on the unofficial rules but am i to assume black kids cannot get called little monkeys too?
Embarrassed that people even jump to these conclusions.
(PS - for anyone who hasn't seen that south park episode, the moral of the story was none of the kids saw it as racist because skin colour doesn't matter)
We got called "little monkeys" all the time as kids - its just something people do because, well you know - we used to get up to mischief and act like monkeys - the same animal we are all supposedly evolved from (including black kids - shock horror /end sarcasm)
I'm white so not sure on the unofficial rules but am i to assume black kids cannot get called little monkeys too?
Embarrassed that people even jump to these conclusions.
(PS - for anyone who hasn't seen that south park episode, the moral of the story was none of the kids saw it as racist because skin colour doesn't matter)
ATTENTION ALL IDIOTS
This is NOT racist!
Believe it or not, some police stations in America changed their shooting range silhouette targets to other colours as not to cause offence.
Soldato
But if your girl wants to play with dolls you must make sure they are gender neutral androids and also wear grey. If your boy wants to wear a pink princess outfit that's fine thought
Probably to play "shoot the black guy"
Probably to play "shoot the black guy"
Go to YouTube and type in "ned prank calls black targets", a whole prank call to the station talking about it
I like how they keep hanging up on him!Go to YouTube and type in "ned prank calls black targets", a whole prank call to the station talking about it
Caporegime
But the shirt doesn't say 'little monkey.'
So you're acknowledging that some people would have found it offensive, which was my point.
Yes everyone is going crazy because they called the kid cool
I did chuckle when I saw it, obvious that the usual SJW types would get "triggered" instantly by it.
I mean on one hand, given it is such a big company, they perhaps should have been a bit more mindful of the fact it is [current year] etc.. and get one of the white kids to wear it.
On the other hand, if someone were to set up say "little monkeys' clothing company" or something along those lines and basically make branded merchandise for kids - would it be right for them to state that their policy is to never employ any black or mixed race models for their clothes due to their brand name... that could also be rather racist.
I mean on one hand, given it is such a big company, they perhaps should have been a bit more mindful of the fact it is [current year] etc.. and get one of the white kids to wear it.
On the other hand, if someone were to set up say "little monkeys' clothing company" or something along those lines and basically make branded merchandise for kids - would it be right for them to state that their policy is to never employ any black or mixed race models for their clothes due to their brand name... that could also be rather racist.
Skin colour shouldn’t matter but it still does in society. Racism exists and, as adults, we’re not ignorant to the possible subtext behind words and images.
We don’t live in the uptopian innocent world of children.
Man of Honour
The first thing I thought was the parents must have been at the photo shoot and they haven't said anything.
It seems that other posters spotted it also.
It seems that other posters spotted it also.
Soldato
I think there'll be a few promotions or bonuses.
In today's age it is undeniably clumsy to have published that, but the irony is that in a perfect society (that people are trying to create) this wouldn't have been an issue. So there is an element of it being self-perpetuating. But, again, very clumsy. We are not in the ideal future and racism still very much is an issue.
‘You stop calling me a black man and I will stop calling you a white man’
It was a silly mistake - but that’s all it was. I can’t imagine for a moment H&M going out of their way to intentionally upset anyone. Trouble is with social media, especially Twitter, everyone is offended by everything.
It was a silly mistake - but that’s all it was. I can’t imagine for a moment H&M going out of their way to intentionally upset anyone. Trouble is with social media, especially Twitter, everyone is offended by everything.