Had a run in with local game shop today (360 vs PS3)

[MoNkeE]

And what do you make of him saying the PS3 online system will be better than Live? I personally think it will be awful in comparison to Live.

Difference between Live and PS3 Online is that Live is subscription based. This means they have constant funds coming in to pay for the services they're providing. PS3 online won't have that luxury, which means they need to (and will) sacrifice in other aspects.

-RaZ

 

[pinkacidbootson]

For a 'fanboy' he doesn't seem to know a lot about the PS3. Did he really say HD-DVD??

im awaiting the "Had a run in with a anti-sony customer" thread from ElRazur

Oh i lol'd!!

 

[Superdude]

I would have asked to speak to the manager if a staff member dared talking to me like that, a stiff word would have shut him up for a few months.

You can have 30 years experience in apples but idividual tastes and needs dictate what the consumer buy.s

I very much doubt that a highly corporate company such as game would like to hear about a staff member slagging off one of thier prime suppliers. Sure he can recommend the PS3 but taking shots at other companies that you apparently represent is not on.

Difference between Live and PS3 Online is that Live is subscription based. This means they have constant funds coming in to pay for the services they're providing. PS3 online won't have that luxury, which means they need to (and will) sacrifice in other aspects.

-RaZ

I can see PS3 online being very 'Mish-Mash' with no central guidelines. Server quality will depend on the publisher, content will be unregulated and some companies may take advantage of the free nature and charge to use thier servers. Without a online SDK common to all ps3 games, I can't see inter-connectivity working so well

 

[Naffa]

Sorry I think there's some misunderstanding here. When I say local game shop I mean my local game shop, called Insane Games (says in my first post).

They're only a small chain of 4 or so stores and I don't believe that treating customers in that respect is right at all let alone in a small busniess (there's a Gamestation 30 seconds down the street). They need all the customers they can get and treating them like they did me isn't a good way to go about it.

For a 'fanboy' he doesn't seem to know a lot about the PS3. Did he really say HD-DVD??

Yeah he did, I chuckled. But everything else he said about it was praising it to the heavens.. Was quite irritating tbh. I dislike fanboyism even for something that I like/own.

 

[Superdude]

They're only a small chain of 4 or so stores and I don't believe that treating customers in that respect is right at all let alone in a small busniess that I like/own.

Thats even worse. If I was the owner then I would have a serious chat with this fellow. I would certainly never go back.

 

[cheets64]

Thats why I shop online, you dont get ***** you want to ****.

 

[Davey_Pitch]

He actually said to me, "I've had 30years experience in this field and I know what to expect from the developers and believe it or not... You don't."

My instant reply to something as condescending as that would be....

"Wow, you've 30 years experience and you *still* work in a retail shop. Shows how much you know doesn't it?"

Then I'd proceed to tear his arguments apart, in front of as many customers as possible.

 

[Naffa]

My instant reply to something as condescending as that would be....

"Wow, you've 30 years experience and you *still* work in a retail shop. Shows how much you know doesn't it?"

Then I'd proceed to tear his arguments apart, in front of as many customers as possible.

Rofl.

I know about twice as much as I did about the PS3 since I posted this thread, just wish I could go back there with some of you guys.

 

[Dark_Angel]

My instant reply to something as condescending as that would be....

"Wow, you've 30 years experience and you *still* work in a retail shop. Shows how much you know doesn't it?"

Then I'd proceed to tear his arguments apart, in front of as many customers as possible.

Exactly... it's about making the person look bad. I have had a couple of these type of arguments before... I remember some poor little fellow trying to argue with me that the PS2 was more powerful than the xbox 1 :/

People scare me quite franly with their rude behavior, and there inability think think clearly and come to sensible outcomes. If I were the OP, I would take in a tape recorder in to the shop, hidden of course, then talk with the guy again, and then play it back to the manager.

 

[Puzzled]

How do even get into arguements over this stuff?

If someone started going on like that at me I'd just ignore them, and walk off. I don't care if you love the PS3, 360, Wii, PC etc etc. I just want to play games I like.

Pretty sad really, someone with "30 years experience" and he still gets so excitied over a games console. When you think how many he must have seen launch you'd think he'd be tired of it by now.

 

[Ultra_Extreme]

You have to remember, i mean hell look at any of the ps3/360 threads, most gamers are complete up their own bum idiots who know nothing but preach to know everything. Just like in the IT industry, i cannot even talk to people in local IT stores because they are so patronising telling me how some new fan at a slight angle let them overclock their P4 by a Ghz or something. Its just the nature of the business, people who THINK they know about technology automatically become gods gift and a veritable font of knowledge on the matter. "all bow before me because i have a copy of edge, and ive actually read it"

Its BS, the lot of it. GAME store employees in particular are some of the most arrogant about anyway.

I covered some of this in an article i wrote on the reviewer when i was bored Linky

 

[Rava Benitez]

He's an idiot next time mention the fact that every single multi format game is rated higher on 360 than ps3 both graphics and game features.

hell take me with you next time i know 50 times more than him about both consoles, i'll make him cry and we'll tape it and stick it on youtube for laughs.

 

[lordrobs]

Should have asked to speak to the manager. Then praise the numpty member of staff by saying that you were going to buy a Wii + loads of add ons + loads of games + HD DVD for your 360 + loads of games from them but because of what numpty said you now see that its pointless spending all that money as "the PS3 will be better than them both"

...Although you feel that you might have to order from a larger store or online to esure you get such an awesome console on release day

 

[MoNkeE]

Wait... You stopped and started having a conversation about console hardware with them?...

Isn't that sorta like going into Games Workshop and arguing whether Necrons or Space Marines are better?

-RaZ

 

[Caustic]

An *extremely* good article on the PS3 online. It is quite long, and has three parts, but parts of it are a bit like a car crash, if you know what I mean. Suddenly, people will start to appreciate Xbox Live even more.

http://www.innerbits.com/blog/2006/11/06/analysis-of-the-ps3-online/

and a follow-up:

http://www.innerbits.com/blog/2006/11/17/analysis-of-the-ps3-online-follow-up/

There is no doubt Sony will improve, but they are several years behind.

 

[Caustic]

Wait... You stopped and started having a conversation about console hardware with them?...

Isn't that sorta like going into Games Workshop and arguing whether Necrons or Space Marines are better?

-RaZ

And I am sure that would spark a huge argument as well

 

[SteveOBHave]

He's an idiot next time mention the fact that every single multi format game is rated higher on 360 than ps3 both graphics and game features.

hell take me with you next time i know 50 times more than him about both consoles, i'll make him cry and we'll tape it and stick it on youtube for laughs.

er... Surely there are less games out there for PS3 than there are for 360 so doesn't this make it kinda moot? How many games on the 360 are currently available on the PS3? I may be wrong but not many - are you sure you know 50 times more?

Aside from this, I hear that SONY will be supporting alternate Operating Systems like Linux being installed.

I discovered today that Sony are going to be release homebrew kits which can then be uploaded to the Playstation network. I know Microsoft have something similar with XNA but that requires C# coding skills. The Sony solution is going to be accessible by all (apparently) and operable from the console without a keyboard.

I am intrigued to say the least, especially as Sony are saying that they are users will be able call all API functions such as physics, texture mapping, etc.

Personally I think it is foolish to write off the PS3 and SONY. They have some pretty smart cookies working for them.

For the record, I'm not likely to buy either of the boxes so am fairly impartial in my observations, but the obvious 360 fanboyism in this thread is grating - hows about a little maturity kiddies?

Have a read of this: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/11/16/hands_on_with_playstation_3_uk/

Although not all PS3 releases run natively at 1080p (many are designed to output at 720p), those which do - again, Ridge Racer 7 being a choice example, as it runs in 1080p at 60 frames per second - show a marked improvement over many Xbox 360 titles (most notably when compared with the considerable number of sub-720p Xbox 360 games). Granted, the difference between these formats is not yet sufficient to herald a revolution, but if we extrapolate potential performance from the formats' initial software, Sony's PlayStation 3 is undeniably superior.

Certainly an interesting observation but he does go on to say that it currently lacks the software and full functionality to make it an essential purchase. These are all things that can be improved upon by software and firmware updates...

 

[Yas786]

My instant reply to something as condescending as that would be....

"Wow, you've 30 years experience and you *still* work in a retail shop. Shows how much you know doesn't it?"

Then I'd proceed to tear his arguments apart, in front of as many customers as possible.

PMSL, id probably say the same thing or knowing the way i am...id turn round and kindly tell him to STFU and that hes talking nothing but BS.

Saying that though, last night went out with my bro and sis in law to lakeside shopping center and popped into the Game store there and had a good ole laugh about the PS3 and 360 and most of them thought the 360 was better value compared to the ps3.

Anyways the guy sounds like a prize **** anyways...

 

[Metalface Mark]

He just sounds like one of these know it all type of guys, id personally print off the 2 ign tony hawks and call of duty 3 reviews, bring in a stapler, staple them to his ignorant fat head, toss a pound coin at him and tell him to buy himself a clue, because he clearly hasnt got one.

Hey, thats just what id do though.

 

[gord]

Awww man, what i would have given to have been in your position. Ive got a list of irrefutable PS3 disadvantages stored in my memory and as far as others say im quite articulate at putting my point across.. I would have destroyed his tiny little mind and put it through a blender after just to make sure!